Norway Killer gets 21-Years

[kandrathe]

Sometimes it will be more extreme things, such as general strikes.

Against whom? I'm describing the state of anarchy that exists in those places in the world where there is no government, or when the government chooses not to protect property rights. In the best of human nature, those poor, and hungry proletarians will take what they want by force because they are self interested and they cannot eat college textbooks, or "Das Capital". In the worst of human nature, as evidence in corruption exhibited in all governments, they act as evilly as any other exploitative person. Whether it is democracy with capitalism, or a communist dictatorship, the reasons that ideologues fail is that we have no perfect people. Quite the opposite I'm afraid, and the seduction of power will lead to a Mao, Stalin, Castro, etc. And, it will be all too easy to corrupt the ideology, whatever the system, to enslave the masses for the benefit of the elite few. I find your pursuits here quixotic and very unrealistic.

Irrelevant. And even so, what they teach you about Socialism in school is not very comprehensive anyways. I've learned much more about Socialism through my own self-research and discourse with other radicals, both in person and online.

Ah, well thanks for the 3 seconds of consideration. You really have no idea how much I know about the topic, or about my friends from former communist nations. Perhaps you should spend just a little more time on understanding logical fallacies -- or just logic. By your definitions there are no true Communists, there are no true Christians, and there are no true Scotsmen.

You wish. No, we can't. Like it or not, as long as Capitalism exists, Marxism will be relevant, and there will be resistance to the status-quo. You want Marxists to go away? Then get rid of Capitalism. Until then, it ain't happening.

Those were your words. You said "Then we don't have to be Socialists anymore, or talk about politics ever again." If that is the end goal, then just move to the end. I'm sure you and a collective of your college chums could form a commune somewhere. There are plenty of models in the US -- which are classless and semi-functional. Most have the quality of life somewhat less than your average Cuban, but hey, at least they are free to quit it if they some day decide to own something. Although, from what I've read it's hard to leave empty handed.