Norway Killer gets 21-Years
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(08-25-2012, 12:35 AM)kandrathe Wrote:
(08-25-2012, 12:09 AM)Ashock Wrote: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einsten.
I remember this philosophy FIT described was the same logic the Bolsheviks professed prior to coming to power.

After they got in power the infighting began, but they labelled them, and had the secret police keep an eye on them. Then, they arrested them for any slight violation, and sent them off to re-education camps, which were administered by Gulag. After a while, they just didn't pretend anymore and shot them outright. It's less of a burden on the state, and more humane than starving them to death. (see NKVD Order No. 00447).

Individual liberty is antithetical to communism. Once you surrender your power, life, and property to the state. They are free to do with it as they please. Why would it surprise us from a system where you own nothing, not even your own your life.

Except there is one little minor detail you forgot (or conveniently omitted): there is no State in a Communist society.

You just described the life of the Proletarian under Capitalism almost perfectly, however. Communism isn't antithetical to individual liberty, it's antithetical to Bourgeois Democracy, where a small group of people who dont work for a living own everything, and where huge amount of people who break their backs to feed their rulers and drive the imperialist war-machine to expand capital (and get only enough in return to survive, so they can be a wage slave another day, since afterall, a dead worker is of no use to a Capitalist).

And the living standard and conditions of the Proletarian were higher under Lenin than they were under the Tsar Nicholas II, this is long proven as FACT. Much in the same way Cubans have a much higher standard of living under Castro, than they did Batista. And btw, Kandrathe, the USA has more people in prison (almost two thirds of which are minorities, surprise surprise) per capita than Cuba EVER did, or the SU under Lenin and post-Stalin (under Stalin they were higher than the USA's currently are, though in that case only slightly). Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

(08-25-2012, 12:40 AM)Ashock Wrote:
(08-25-2012, 12:24 AM)FireIceTalon Wrote: Yea, Capitalists should understand that better than anyone else Big Grin

and Einstein, btw, was a Socialist Wink

LOL.

*Sigh* Cocaine is a powerful drug.

I don't do cocaine. But regardless, this retort is basically a concession that either I am right, or you have no legitimate argument other than logical fallacies, propaganda, and sarcastic remarks to try and back up your weakly constructed, and presumptuous claims. Or more likely, both.
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Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Taem - 08-24-2012, 05:20 PM
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RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-24-2012, 11:05 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Ashock - 08-25-2012, 12:09 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-25-2012, 12:24 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Ashock - 08-25-2012, 12:40 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-25-2012, 12:35 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-25-2012, 12:49 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Ashock - 08-25-2012, 01:02 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-25-2012, 01:25 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-25-2012, 01:39 AM
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RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-30-2012, 04:19 AM
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