D3's difficulties get CNN coverage - again.
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(07-10-2012, 08:39 PM)Tal Wrote:
(07-10-2012, 08:08 PM)Jester Wrote: Is it just me, or have gamers become spoiled, entitled little brats? I've bitched plenty about various games in the past, but recently, it's been absurd. DIII. ME3. When Valve tried putting out Left 4 Dead 2, fans raised a big stink because they feared they'd no longer make loads of free content for the game they already have. Even Bioshock, a video game masterpiece, has somehow become more famous for what people found wrong with it. Games are getting metacritic bombed more and more.

Are we becoming impossible to please? Or am I just noticing it more?

-Jester

This is just my opinion - but no I don't feel that's the case for me. I loved Diablo II. Never noticed a lot of the bugs, frustrations or cheese in the game until I started reading the forums on Yeggs Tavern and here. I just played the game because it was fun. It never felt impossible. DH was my first class also and it left a sour taste in my mouth about the game overall, but the other classes were fun to play before Inferno.

Diablo III comes along and...things feel a lot harder than I think they should be. I solo'd much of the game until Hell and then grouped up with folks like Bolty, Dragoon, Quark and Lissa. They got me through Hell and into Inferno. Bolty congratulated me and said something along the lines of "The true game begins".

The next morning I launched Inferno and started playing. While I got through the beginning quests - the first champ pack I ran into beat me down like I owed it money. I corpse ran a bit until I needed to repair and promptly logged out. That evening Bolty and a few of his buddies I'd played with in WoW helped me through to (I think) Skeleton King in Act 1.

At every stage of the game I felt like a hindurance to the party and that I wasn't carrying my weight. When rares dropped they were useless - even to classes that were in Hell difficulty. Bolty and others gifted me with some upgrades (of which I am grateful) but my survivability in Inferno and more importantly, my dps, remained the same. I felt like I couldn't carry my weight and was being boosted through.

That night I logged off and while I had fun playing with Bolty and others...I realized I just wasn't enjoying Diablo III. Every fight I felt like I was in over my head - even in late Act 4 Hell. I couldn't solo effectively, and I hated being the lowest dps in the party on top of the guy that needed to be resurrected after every boss fight - to which there were no useful upgrades. The time/frustration vs fun/reward just wasn't there for me.

So I essentially quit. Occasionally I fire up the game and log in. Then I run into a bullshit combo on my DH like vortex/extra health on something that hits like a truck and I die a few times before killing it. And that's not fun. So I log back out - go over to WoW and either level another character, do dailies, or pvp for a bit. There I can piddle around for 30 minutes and progress on something.

Even when I go up against something that counters my class in pvp (hallo thar mr frostmage) - it doesn't match the frustration of many of the champ/elite packs in D3. I still have fun doing it and sometimes I can win.

It is very rare that me and you agree, but in this case, my experience overall has been the same when it comes to Inferno. Normal-Hell is fine.

I've managed to overcome the brick wall that was Inferno Act 2 (had to have some help at the end from Archon with ZK, but I did the beginning up until then ENTIRELY on my own), but it wasn't really fun for me either. It was quite tedious. Now, I'm at Act 3 which is an even bigger wall, and though I suppose I could sludge through it and eventually beat it, I really have no desire to. It will be much more of a chore than it is fun. I've made huge gear upgrades in the last couple weeks, but I'm really in no place to do so anymore for a while, in either AH. OFC, it is sad that I have to even use a AH to begin with to improve my character. I wouldn't mind using it here and there for a slot that I wasn't having luck with, but almost all my gear on my Wiz is AH purchased except for a few slots, because drops are really bad, and crafting is too random and expensive to be of any use. Now, even for a small upgrade, it would cost a fortune, because the items I use now are fairly high quality but the game is still outrageously tedious at this point.

I think you should try and roll a different class besides DH, though. DH is flawed and very difficult to play even on nightmare and hell, but everything else has been fairly balanced before Inferno (Barb actually feels OP, Monk, WD, and Wiz are just about right).
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