06-17-2011, 07:46 PM
This thread reminds me of junior high.
Which would be all societies. We crossed that line with campfires or furs or something back in the day. So it becomes a purely subjective issue, as to what is good and what is outrageous. To me that is neither here nor there with regards to capitalism vs. communism. Somehow it needs to be decided what jobs need to be done, what goods and services need to be provided, who does what, who gets what, etc. And there is great power behind that. The free market is our collective will influencing that. Any socialist system will bend to that will in great degree unless the government pushes back through sheer might. We can talk about ideals but in the real world the market influence simply cannot be ignored.
(06-17-2011, 08:11 AM)eppie Wrote: Thank you. And I agree with this. This is a problem not only in capitalist societies but in all societies in which overconsumption occurs.
Which would be all societies. We crossed that line with campfires or furs or something back in the day. So it becomes a purely subjective issue, as to what is good and what is outrageous. To me that is neither here nor there with regards to capitalism vs. communism. Somehow it needs to be decided what jobs need to be done, what goods and services need to be provided, who does what, who gets what, etc. And there is great power behind that. The free market is our collective will influencing that. Any socialist system will bend to that will in great degree unless the government pushes back through sheer might. We can talk about ideals but in the real world the market influence simply cannot be ignored.