10-19-2008, 07:39 PM
In reply to post 143 by Kandrathe
"He did succeed. Rep. Crockett stood on the principle that it is a misuse of government to spend public money in that way."
Somehow, it doesn't seem fair to drag old Davy into our modern-day problems, but if you insist...
Interesting background story. Apparantly Davy Crockett didn't figure it out himself, but got the Truth told to him by a simple farmer. Sounds like a historical Joe the Plumber :D
So a congress member had to learn the meaning of your Constitution from someone working in the fields, who used words like 'legitimate purposes'? Isn't it more likely that the man was just envious about the money used for the people in Georgetown? He was right in one thing, though. It's not about the amount, but about the choices that must be made. When there are many needs, who is going to decide where the money is spent? It would be nice if the Constitution provided a useful list of priorities, but this is not the case. And even then, such a list would be propably be out-dated by now. Then again, I never read the Constitution. Does it mention freeing the people of Iraq from dictators?
That's where politicians get in. Someone has to do the ungrateful job of taking decisions that will never make everyone happy, like figuring out what to do with tax money. You can blame them for making 'bad' choices, but at least they have the courage to make them.
In reply to post 146 by Kandrathe
"Currently, the FBI is raiding many Acorn offices looking for an organized conspiracy. Acorn would do itself a big favor by cleaning up its own act. I think their heart is in the right place, but they are very sloppy where accuracy matters. This sloppiness can lead to legal challenges that might disenfranchise thousands, or hundreds of thousands of potential valid voters. In the news cycles and politics of anecdotes, one Mickey Mouse, or Jimmy Johns gives the appearance of a wide spread problem."
Is the FBI really raiding ACORN offices, searching for conspiracies? Maybe you have better sources (and I'd like to see them if you do), but according to this New York Times article, the FBI is only reviewing reports on the matter. And they don't seem too enthousiactic about it:
"Some officials said privately that they were wary of being pulled into a highly partisan controversy so close to Election Day."
The only offices mentioned are those of the FBI. Perhaps you mixed this up with ACORN offices, and assumed those got raided?
Regarding Micky Mouse, and other 'highlights' of this affaire, you might want to read this article, titled 'The Republican voter fraud hoax'. It doesn't add much that we didn't say already, but you seem to like mud slinging.
"He did succeed. Rep. Crockett stood on the principle that it is a misuse of government to spend public money in that way."
Somehow, it doesn't seem fair to drag old Davy into our modern-day problems, but if you insist...
Interesting background story. Apparantly Davy Crockett didn't figure it out himself, but got the Truth told to him by a simple farmer. Sounds like a historical Joe the Plumber :D
So a congress member had to learn the meaning of your Constitution from someone working in the fields, who used words like 'legitimate purposes'? Isn't it more likely that the man was just envious about the money used for the people in Georgetown? He was right in one thing, though. It's not about the amount, but about the choices that must be made. When there are many needs, who is going to decide where the money is spent? It would be nice if the Constitution provided a useful list of priorities, but this is not the case. And even then, such a list would be propably be out-dated by now. Then again, I never read the Constitution. Does it mention freeing the people of Iraq from dictators?
That's where politicians get in. Someone has to do the ungrateful job of taking decisions that will never make everyone happy, like figuring out what to do with tax money. You can blame them for making 'bad' choices, but at least they have the courage to make them.
In reply to post 146 by Kandrathe
"Currently, the FBI is raiding many Acorn offices looking for an organized conspiracy. Acorn would do itself a big favor by cleaning up its own act. I think their heart is in the right place, but they are very sloppy where accuracy matters. This sloppiness can lead to legal challenges that might disenfranchise thousands, or hundreds of thousands of potential valid voters. In the news cycles and politics of anecdotes, one Mickey Mouse, or Jimmy Johns gives the appearance of a wide spread problem."
Is the FBI really raiding ACORN offices, searching for conspiracies? Maybe you have better sources (and I'd like to see them if you do), but according to this New York Times article, the FBI is only reviewing reports on the matter. And they don't seem too enthousiactic about it:
"Some officials said privately that they were wary of being pulled into a highly partisan controversy so close to Election Day."
The only offices mentioned are those of the FBI. Perhaps you mixed this up with ACORN offices, and assumed those got raided?
Regarding Micky Mouse, and other 'highlights' of this affaire, you might want to read this article, titled 'The Republican voter fraud hoax'. It doesn't add much that we didn't say already, but you seem to like mud slinging.