Did Bush manipulate Iraq data?

[Growler]

I've seen those bodycount numbers. Because they are based on media reports, they lack credibility. They count things like little girls getting run over by trucks. As if that were intended, or that no one ever got hit by a truck before the Americans came. Then there is the problem of defining a 'civilian', especially now that Iraq's former armed forces are dissolved. Al-Jazeera is listed as a source. Al-Jazeera was penetrated by Iraqi intelligence agents, wasn't it?

Not buying it. I don't have any credible numbers, but I have my judgement on what numbers may be plausible. 5,000 - 7,000 is not plausible.

Do you really think these people are doing this because they don't like hamburgers?

Its all about pork. They don't like pork. Especially bbq pork ribs, a blasphemy most grievous in the eyes of Allah. Lamb good, pork bad. :huh:

Seriously, what I really think this is all about is Islamic civil war. It is a religious war, and since europeans are all so sophisticated and above it all I wouldn't expect them to understand. That's ok, it doesn't really involve them anyway. Will it stay that way?

I'm not saying the US are to blame for all of this, but you need to start realizing that there are always two sides to a story, and that noone is pure good or pure evil. Both parts are to blame for the conflict between arabs and the US, but neither seems willing to accept an inch of responsibility for it. In my eyes that makes both parts equally guilty of the continuation of the conflict.

There are two sides to every war, the winning side and the losing side. That is really all that matters now. You can stay out of it and pretend to be above it all, but I think your pose of moral rectitude is fraudulent.