01-16-2008, 12:47 AM
Quote:In all those cases you are primarily responsible for your own survival, but your death doesn't impact anyone else except indirectly.
It's all relative. Many TBC fights are DPS races or at least DPS checks. If you are not at the point where you overgear the fights, then someone dying in an avoidable manner does mean a serious problem, and someone dying and wiping out a few others (via a bad shatter, for example) does mean a raid wipe. Especially if they take out a crucial person or two with them. I think these are the checks that make TBC raiding truly a team sport; they are what was missing from MC.
I think it's natural that the severity of a some bad action is inversely proportional to how much a given fight is considered "on farm." For you, 4 DPS dying to shatters may be a joke, but for guild working on Gruul, it means a guaranteed wipe due to Gruul being allowed to grow too large.
On the other hand, when current BT guilds are running around in Sunwell gear, perhaps constructs in the raid will be a joke, and they'll just laugh at those who crater on Archimonde, instead of them being wipe-inducers as they are now. I think it's all tied to perspective.