Newark Execution Murders
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Quote:Good point, and I agree. Let me clarify further. After 911 we declared a war on terror, and winning "The War on Terror" is the only option. To lose would mean the success of anarchy within the West, and the success of extremist theocracies in many states throughout Europe, Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

Only it's not a "war", there is really no point to reach that would qualify as "victory" and the "success of extremist theocracies"? I don't think so.


Quote:I would also say that what you see in Iraq is not "war" in the classical sense. Is France at war? They have as much violence.

You gotta be kidding me... tens of thousands dead and utter anarchy in FRANCE?

Quote:Iraqi's

Good to see that one happens to other people too:)

Quote:But, hopefully this disintegration can be staved off until we have accomplished the part that is important for winning the "War on Terror". This objective is that hopefully even within a peaceful transition to a multi-state solution for disintegrated Iraq, that each component not devolve into a haven for terrorists. This means that any new state have a solid government with a rule of law, and hopefully a respect for liberty and individual rights. Democracy is secondary to the previous statement.

Winning the "[sic!]War on Terror", right. All the good-will building of the US Armed Forces should pay off eventually and the Iraqi civilians will cast down the evil extremists for you. No wait, you are creating more of those as you go along, silly me. And peaceful mulit-state after years of more or less ignoring the fact that you are dealing with different groups, ethnicities, muslims. Right.

Quote:Either way, peaceful or war torn, eventually, the West will be on the hook financially to engage in nation building in what we now call Iraq.

Well, some companies are making a killing, harhar.

Seems to me that you are ignoring key facts about the whole mess but are quite good at coming off supportive and optimistic, especially about that whole "winning" part.

Let's just disagree on most of it and leave it there.

take care
Tarabulus

"I'm a cynical optimistic realist. I have hopes. I suspect they are all in vain. I find a lot of humor in that." -Pete

I'll remember you.
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Newark Execution Murders - by kandrathe - 08-23-2007, 12:34 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Jester - 08-23-2007, 01:35 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Thecla - 08-23-2007, 01:39 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Taem - 08-23-2007, 04:05 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Munkay - 08-23-2007, 04:34 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Vandiablo - 08-23-2007, 05:21 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Taem - 08-23-2007, 05:31 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by kandrathe - 08-24-2007, 12:47 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by kandrathe - 08-24-2007, 01:10 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Jester - 08-24-2007, 02:01 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by kandrathe - 08-24-2007, 06:29 PM
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