Newark Execution Murders
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Quote:The US military is doing a great job considering the asymmetric difficulties they face, and they will win in Iraq and Afghanistan if the politicians will get out of their way and allow them to win.

I rather liked your post up to this point. Failure to realise that some "wars" cannot be resolved by military means (alone) is what created this whole mess, and belief by too many people in your statement is what, in my opinon, will keep it a mess.

I did not, and still don't, support the decision to invade Iraq but realise that pulling out now would only make matters worse.The world now is, again in my mildly informed opinion, not a safer place than it was before Operation Iraqi Freedom. Nor can any amount of military activity, save perhaps massive commitment of troops to create some sort of military-enforced police state, remedy that situation.

The mess has been created (and yes there was a certain mess already in place in Iraq). It is going to take years to get that swamp of violence to dry up and military action can, at best, be only a part of it. I said earlier that pulling out is not an option, as troops are quite abviously required to maintain a semblance of security (if only at times and in certain places), real security however, one that transcends the Iraqi borders and spreads to affected nations, can only come from drying up support for the ideology that fuels the terror in Iraq and elsewhere. Now, I could try to sum up my ideas for how such a thing could be accomplished, but I'm afraid I'd be sitting at my keyboard until well into tomorrow and the key points are blatantly obvious and utterly unrealistic (oil, reason, cooperation...).

So I'm going to leave it at that and hope I'll be forgiven.

take care
Tarabulus


EDIT: Re-reading your last paragraph I found our positions in the matter of keeping troops in Iraq and for what reason to be rather the same, so the elaboration on my part about why troops are needed is kind of pointless. Still disagreeing about the "winning" though.
"I'm a cynical optimistic realist. I have hopes. I suspect they are all in vain. I find a lot of humor in that." -Pete

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Newark Execution Murders - by kandrathe - 08-23-2007, 12:34 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Jester - 08-23-2007, 01:35 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Thecla - 08-23-2007, 01:39 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Taem - 08-23-2007, 04:05 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Munkay - 08-23-2007, 04:34 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by Vandiablo - 08-23-2007, 05:21 AM
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Newark Execution Murders - by kandrathe - 08-24-2007, 12:47 AM
Newark Execution Murders - by kandrathe - 08-24-2007, 01:10 AM
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