patch 2.0.10 notes on the PTR

[Tal]

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I said, pretty darn clearly, a druid can't tank unless he's Feral. You stated you've seen a Restoration druid tank, yet now you admit you don't know if he HAD points in Feral? There is a TON of difference between asking a warrior his spec before he tanks than asking a druid, since a warrior can tank REGARDLESS of spec, and a druid CANNOT. Not effectively, not for any long period of time (and again, 5-mans are negligible; PETS tank 5-mans).

I, once again, completely and openly disagree with you. They still have bear form which grants armor and life. They still have access to all of the skills of a bear tank. They're not as effective as a warrior but they CAN do it.

A Feral druid specs to tank, a warrior with points only in Arms/Fury does not. For that reason ALONE, I should be allowed to be better at tanking than those Arms/Fury warriors.

Do your healing abilities, battle rez, buffing, etc disappear when you access the feral tree? There is TWO roles a warrior can spec into. DPS or tank for that reason ALONE the dps spec should tank as well as a feral druid.

And a warrior with 15 points in Protection isn't exactly just an Arms/Fury warrior, as he has taken the "essential" tanking talents in the lower tiers (the single-most important talent being Defiance). While I still feel I should be somewhat better, I have no problem with the difference being negligible or non-existant from a warrior with those 15 points. But I damn well want to be better at tanking (disregarding skill) than a warrior who expects to get to tank even though he has a total and complete focus on DPS with his talents, just as you would want to be better by speccing 15 points into Protection.

I'm not as hung up about it as you are.

How can you call yourself an Arms/Fury warrior when you have more points in Protection than in Fury?

Because my 31/13/17 spec is to emphasize my utility in raids and for guild needs. Prior to 70 and for my pre-tbc raiding experience I was 31/20/0 and tanked every boss in MC, BWL, many of the encounters in AQ40 and was one of the primary OTs in Naxx.