patch 2.0.10 notes on the PTR

[Taelas]

Sounds to me like you roll with the wrong guild that pigeonholes players into roles too much. Unless you're in one of the uber ultra min-max superguilds like Nihilum or Death and Taxes, there's just no reason for a guild to limit its hybrids to the healing role. Especially in the Burning Crusade, where the hybrids are starting to really shine. Yes, I'm aware the Druid nerf puts a fork in that. The Priest nerfs also seem to be an attempt to limit that. Shadow Priests *rule* in raiding now (before, they were good, but now they're raid-changing) and any guild shunning them is idiotic.

Unfortunately, that's just how most guilds are. It's simpler to have "pure" classes. It's the lowest common denominator. It stinks.:(

Though I might add that the ultra min-max superguilds such as Nihilum probably has a very fluid raid (even with the same members). When it's working probably, bringing hybrids is the most efficient way to raid.

Yeah, being a Druid sucks like that. As someone who tends to manage/oversee healing in a large raiding conglomerate, I'm well aware of how much some of the Druids feel maligned. We're lucky to have all sorts - those Druids who live to heal, some who love to Moonkin, and some who love to feral. One of them in particular was "born to tank."

Sigh. Can I join your guild?:P("Born to tank" fits me well, though I only realized it around level 51 on my warrior.)

Even in tanking, the most gear-dependent role of them all, skill often shines. We have a feral Druid who's a hell of a tank and it would really become apparent on tough tanking encounters like the Bug Family of AQ40. Some tanks can handle the chaos, and some can't. When the feral Druid shows up some of our prot Warriors who feel they deserve to tank everything, well, too bad.

Tell me about it. One of our best-equipped warriors can't tank a hole in the ground without tripping into it.

From my perspective, that being a dedicated Priest healer, having a feral Druid along *rocks*. Think about what they bring:

It's good to hear, but...

1) Solid DPS

"Solid"... That's a matter of taste, I think. Having been a raiding mage leader, all I can say is that Feral DPS isn't something to cheer about.

2) Ability to tank

Not anymore. <_<

3) Combat ressing

Sure, on a 30-minute cooldown. Still, Rebirth rocks (even with the reagent cost).

4) INNERVATE. Two seconds to pop out of form and Innervating me is *enormous* when facing tough, long encounters. In this sense, the feral Druid becomes a healer simply by giving you the mana power of two Holy Priests instead of one.

Innervates (and Rebirths) do not happen while the druid is tanking.;)Innervating the priest is a good way to wipe a raid if you're the tank.

Otherwise... :wub:Innervate (even though it's not for me).

5) Spot healing when things go bad/needed

And happy to bring it (as long as I'm not forced to constantly heal--at least not without the back-up of a full Restoration spec and the proper gear).

What can Shalandrax, Tal's Warrior, provide me besides his damage/tanking?

1) Intervene, when that big mob is coming to one-shot me

Winnar = Druid.

-Bolty

There is quite a bit more than that.;)Battleshout and Commanding Shout (party-wide only, the more warriors the better), Sunders while tanking (which increases melee DPS), Thunderclap (which slows attack speed, less damage for the tank), Demoralizing Shout (it beats Demoralizing Roar), Disarm (very rarely applicable, admittedly)...