patch 2.0.10 notes on the PTR

[Mavfin]

You're missing my point Mav on why a dps warrior should be on par or better than a protection specc'd druid/paladin in a raid environment otherwise why bring one or more to a raid if there is competition from a class that can heal/dispell-cleanse/dps/tank? DPS warriors can only play two roles in a raid environment. We can DPS or we can tank. Druids/Paladins can provide so much more utility that warriors have to be at least on par or they wouldn't be considered.

Please keep in Mind, Tal, that I was posting *what I think Blizz is trying to do*, not *what I think it should be*:D

I also put in my post that the prot warrior is almost always going to get the big boss anyway, because of his bag of tricks that druids and pallies don't have. Also, on the boss, what's the prot warrior going to do, unless you leave him out of the raid? DPS? Well, 1/2-2/3 of what Shalandrax can do is *something*, I guess. It's better than what I used to do. Still, on the big boss fight, the druid and the pally can help keep the raid alive. The prot warrior can't. Prot warriors are of the most value to the raid taking the beating. Just like the DPS warrior is most help to the raid doing damage to something, unless they're needed to tank. However, prot-specced hybrids can also help tank, just like you can. In guilds like the ones you and I are in, skill will win out anyway, not just class. In the min/maxed guilds, things may be different. We're not there, thankfully.