11-18-2006, 03:27 PM
Quote:Eppie, you seem awfully quick to jump the gun and point fingers at the US. It's a big country, and the missteps of a few under trained individuals is not equivalent to the foreign political agenda. Do yourself a favor and separate the two.
Cheers,
Munk
I absolutely don't want to point fingers at the US, you understood me wrong.
I seperate both subjects, I just wanted to point out why I am against excessive measures against people.
It is a fact that a big part of people with jobs that gives them this kind of simple power over others are not capable of handling the job. Not US you see...everywhere this happens.
If (lets give a dutch example, because I'm tired of explaining all the time that I don't have anything against the US, in general I like the people that I know, it is my favorite holiday destination etc. etc.) in Holland police continues to hassle small Marocan boys for all kinds of small things, like just hanging around or so, these kids grow up with a strong hatred against 'the system'' the only things this yields is more, and more violent teenagers.
If you want to act tough on crime, fine, but be sure to be tough on the right persons on the right time. You make mistakes? You will get them back at you for sure.
Soldiers just like policemen are usually not masters of philosophy or PhDs in social sciences, and I have absolutely no problems with that. The people in charge though have to realize this.
In Holland we had much problems lately with marines and navy soldiers misbehaving (rapes of female colleagues, fighting in bars with local people (among who women).
As long as we don't realize that e.g. soldiers and police officers are not angels not capable of doing wrong we get a lot of problems. Of course we usually talk about individuals but it is the responsibility of the people in charge that these things don't happen....it will hurt the (in this case) policeforce too much.