10-26-2006, 09:01 PM
And really I don't think the impact is as bad as people are making it out to be.
If you have +800 healing right now and spiritual healing.
L60 right now. Rank 4 heal should be:
(758 * 1.1) + (800 * .85) = 1513 average heal.
L60 in TBC it should look like:
(758 + (800 * .85 * .75) ) * 1.1 = 1395 average heal
yes with the exception of druids that are broken your talents are now applied AFTER +healing effects as well.
Yep, it's a drop off. But it's not a doom and gloom I'll never be able to use that rank of heal again. I'll assume improved healing for a 15% mana redcution on the spell cost still.
So heal rank 4 base of 305 mana drops to 259 mana.
So old method you got 1513 / 259 = 5.84 HP/MP
New method you get 1395 / 259 = 5.39 HP/MP
Not really the OMG I can't down rank at all situation.
Considering you downrank I see 3 main reasons to do it:
1) Mana conservation. Since lower ranks that take the same cast time still get a big benefit from your +heal gear you can still throw out a good size heal for very little mana.
2) Cast time. A druid can cast healing touch rank 4 in 2.5 seconds (with talents) vs 3 seconds for Healing Touch rank 5 or higher.
3) Just topping off and not wanting to overheal. If someone is only down 1500 HP you don't need to cast a spell that will heal them for 1800. This is essentailly mana conservation though. But it is somehting to consider.
2 and 3 aren't really changed that much by this. I'll still down rank if the person needs healing but I would over heal with another rank. I'll likely still down rank for speed if there isn't a better option.
Also note that while this is a nerf to healing, it's also an effective buff to those who have the +healing talents as well since they won't be hurt as much by it it.
Without the +healing talent it changes the heal from 1438 avg (now) to 1268 avg (after change). 170 difference vs the 118 difference that the healer with the + healing talents had.
There is more too it, but downranking will still be useful, you'll still likely get full benefit from +heal for 3 or 4 ranks of the spell anyway. You'll still get enough benefit to make some of the lower ranks desirable. But if you consider it's a relative buff for heal spec toons, and that there looks to be more stam so you'll likely be dealing with bigger HP pools and having needs for some of the higher rank heals (fewer healers in smaller groups so you can't figure 3 other smaller heals are coming in on your tank) I don't see it as that big of a deal.
If you have +800 healing right now and spiritual healing.
L60 right now. Rank 4 heal should be:
(758 * 1.1) + (800 * .85) = 1513 average heal.
L60 in TBC it should look like:
(758 + (800 * .85 * .75) ) * 1.1 = 1395 average heal
yes with the exception of druids that are broken your talents are now applied AFTER +healing effects as well.
Yep, it's a drop off. But it's not a doom and gloom I'll never be able to use that rank of heal again. I'll assume improved healing for a 15% mana redcution on the spell cost still.
So heal rank 4 base of 305 mana drops to 259 mana.
So old method you got 1513 / 259 = 5.84 HP/MP
New method you get 1395 / 259 = 5.39 HP/MP
Not really the OMG I can't down rank at all situation.
Considering you downrank I see 3 main reasons to do it:
1) Mana conservation. Since lower ranks that take the same cast time still get a big benefit from your +heal gear you can still throw out a good size heal for very little mana.
2) Cast time. A druid can cast healing touch rank 4 in 2.5 seconds (with talents) vs 3 seconds for Healing Touch rank 5 or higher.
3) Just topping off and not wanting to overheal. If someone is only down 1500 HP you don't need to cast a spell that will heal them for 1800. This is essentailly mana conservation though. But it is somehting to consider.
2 and 3 aren't really changed that much by this. I'll still down rank if the person needs healing but I would over heal with another rank. I'll likely still down rank for speed if there isn't a better option.
Also note that while this is a nerf to healing, it's also an effective buff to those who have the +healing talents as well since they won't be hurt as much by it it.
Without the +healing talent it changes the heal from 1438 avg (now) to 1268 avg (after change). 170 difference vs the 118 difference that the healer with the + healing talents had.
There is more too it, but downranking will still be useful, you'll still likely get full benefit from +heal for 3 or 4 ranks of the spell anyway. You'll still get enough benefit to make some of the lower ranks desirable. But if you consider it's a relative buff for heal spec toons, and that there looks to be more stam so you'll likely be dealing with bigger HP pools and having needs for some of the higher rank heals (fewer healers in smaller groups so you can't figure 3 other smaller heals are coming in on your tank) I don't see it as that big of a deal.
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It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.
It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.