The land of the flighty

[Occhidiangela]

This is absolutely wrong. You show here that you based your opinion on 'fuzzy media' and strange sources and probably a feeling of that the US had to be right. Something (the other way around) you started blaming me of. The UN said there was absolutely no proof of WMD etc in Iraq. The reason the kept looking is to buy time hoping that the US would not invade.

What a curious interpretation of history. Anyway, it is water under the bridge, and the uncertainty has now been cleared up, at a considerable cost. :( I find your assertion at odds with UNSCR 1441, however, selective memory can do that to people with blinders on.

And again, just because in the US (or Holland) we can buy 10 different kinds of cola doesn't mean we do everything right. We also try to legalize torturing of people that might be terrorists...Castro put politically dangerous people behind bars. It is both wrong and more or less the same thing.

There's a fine piece of attempted moral equivalency. Way to go, eppie, you restored my faith in your consistency. Here is something for you to ponder:

Can Fidel Castro be impeached by his Congress? (Equivalent body, National Assembly of People's Power, restricted by structure to a single party.) President Bush and VP Cheney can, and may yet, though most of Congress would be signing their own "I am guilty of negligence" cards during such a procedure. I am betting the under, as I don't think the Democrats will get a large enough manority in Senate and House to pursue that course of action.

Could th is sort of dissent and interal struggle have happened without a few people being disappeared in Cuba?

Gitmo interrogations spark battle over tactics

The inside story of criminal investigators who tried to stop abuse

PART ONE OF TWO
By Bill Dedman
Investigative reporter
MSNBC
Updated: 10:35 a.m. MT Oct 24, 2006

Speaking publicly for the first time, senior U.S. law enforcement investigators say they waged a long but futile battle inside the Pentagon to stop coercive and degrading treatment of detainees by intelligence interrogators at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Their account indicates that the struggle over U.S. interrogation techniques began much earlier than previously known, with separate teams of law enforcement and intelligence interrogators battling over the best way to accomplish two missions: prevent future attacks and punish the terrorists.

In extensive interviews with MSNBC.com, former leaders of the Defense Department’s Criminal Investigation Task Force said they repeatedly warned senior Pentagon officials beginning in early 2002 that the harsh interrogation techniques used by a separate intelligence team would not produce reliable information, could constitute war crimes, and would embarrass the nation when they became public knowledge.

The investigators say their warnings began almost from the moment their agents got involved at the Guantanamo prison camp, in January 2002. When they could not prevent the harsh interrogations and humiliation of detainees at Guantanamo, they say, they tried in 2003 to stop the spread of those tactics to Iraq, where abuses at Abu Ghraib prison triggered worldwide outrage with the publishing of graphic photos in April 2004.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15361458

Occhi