10-12-2006, 03:57 AM
All I can say is that it is very clear that your battlegroup has evolved to a VERY different type of game from the battlegroup that Terenas (BG1) and apparently Stormrage (BG?) tend to see.
A typical game in my battlegroup will sometimes have the alliance winning before horde flip SP, and usually before horde flip the aid station. They have learned what SP and the bridge has to offer in terms of stalling the horde offense and use a 10-15 man defense to stall horde there long enough for their 25 man offense. With no defense at all from the horde side, they pretty much steamroll through in a similar time as with a 40 man offense, but they end up with more bonus because the horde generally doesn't cap the 2 Dun Baldar towers.
Our alliance is not so willing to concede their base as yours appear to be.
The stall between SH and SH involves pushing the entire alliance force and keeping them from any graveyards at all. Lok is milling around the field of strife while ~5 people sit at IB and SF and the other ~30 keep the alliance stalled on the road. With so many people, it's generally quite difficult for them to kite Lok, especially since Lok no longer interacts with NPCs and it doesn't do them all that much good to kite him anyway. If they do kite them to the general's room, inevitably the kiter gets killed when he gets there and finds out the general no longer attacks Lok, then he resets and continues his killing spree.
The fact that your alliance seem to present zero defense appears to be the disconnect we have here. I'm guessing your alliance will eventually learn. It didn't take ours more than about a week after X-server BGs to wise up and deny the horde Dun Baldar with reasonable consistency.
A typical game in my battlegroup will sometimes have the alliance winning before horde flip SP, and usually before horde flip the aid station. They have learned what SP and the bridge has to offer in terms of stalling the horde offense and use a 10-15 man defense to stall horde there long enough for their 25 man offense. With no defense at all from the horde side, they pretty much steamroll through in a similar time as with a 40 man offense, but they end up with more bonus because the horde generally doesn't cap the 2 Dun Baldar towers.
Our alliance is not so willing to concede their base as yours appear to be.
The stall between SH and SH involves pushing the entire alliance force and keeping them from any graveyards at all. Lok is milling around the field of strife while ~5 people sit at IB and SF and the other ~30 keep the alliance stalled on the road. With so many people, it's generally quite difficult for them to kite Lok, especially since Lok no longer interacts with NPCs and it doesn't do them all that much good to kite him anyway. If they do kite them to the general's room, inevitably the kiter gets killed when he gets there and finds out the general no longer attacks Lok, then he resets and continues his killing spree.
The fact that your alliance seem to present zero defense appears to be the disconnect we have here. I'm guessing your alliance will eventually learn. It didn't take ours more than about a week after X-server BGs to wise up and deny the horde Dun Baldar with reasonable consistency.
Conc / Concillian -- Vintage player of many games. Deadly leader of the All Pally Team (or was it Death leader?)
Terenas WoW player... while we waited for Diablo III.
And it came... and it went... and I played Hearthstone longer than Diablo III.
Terenas WoW player... while we waited for Diablo III.
And it came... and it went... and I played Hearthstone longer than Diablo III.