07-22-2006, 01:10 AM
Quote:Oh well, you'll get a chance to see some of the issues Paladins have come the expansion.
If you read what I said as a follow up, it's that the buff gets knocked off. There is very little room for debuffs on a mob when you have the following going up: Curse of Shadow, Curse of Elements, Curse of Recklessness, Sunder, Thunderfury procs (2 debuffs). There's 8 debuffs that will be up constantly. Some of the other 8 slots take, VE, MF, Rend, Shadow Weaving, Faerie Fire, and random debuffs from procs and the like. See the problem? Suddenly, JoW has little to no space up there and will typically get kicked off by something. Even if there were more control over those last 8 spots, what are you going to tell can't be on the mob vs. what can?
There's where the raid leader needs to step in and start prioritizing debuffs. It sucks that raids are limited to 16 debuffs slots (and thank God it's not still only 8 slots), but that's all we get, so we have to deal with it. JoW is way too important of a debuff to a raid to be knocked off all the time. So, the raid leader needs to tell the shadow priests to knock it off with the mind flays and vampiric embraces when attacking the big raid boss. They might be fine for the adds, but if you're fighting a tough boss and your raid needs mana, the shadow priests have to bite the bullet and just heal. If there are enough warlocks in the party that Shadow Weaving is worth it, then a shadow priest can be assigned to pump it up with rank 1 SW:Pain in the beginning and then keep it going with mind blasts every time the cooldown is available. Otherwise, they have to stop with the mind flays, because they're hurting the raid with them.
The same can be said for many other dot's and debuffs. JoW's priority should be big enough that it doesn't get knocked off by small effects like fireball ticks.