07-13-2006, 02:18 PM
Quote:You guys seem to be forgetting that epics from AV are not even close to epics that are gotten from anything except ZG, and it's not even as good as that. TUF is 61 DPS, that is just a little over some of the epics you get from non-raid instances. Lobo is 47, which is 5-6 points lower than pretty common raid stuff and a good 15 DPS lower than the high-end stuff and I won't even mention Noxx. These are just high-end blues of a purple color. In light of this, this whole discussion is pointless as it is comparing apples and cowpies.
-A
The AV items are closer to the weaker MC drops than they are to the best non-raid blues. Esk's right claw at 48 and Thunderstrike at 59 for instance. Non raid ilvl 63 blues weigh in at 41 and 54 respectively. I recognise how much further raiding goes but the new AV is a good start at restoring some balance to the game.
Quote:I dunno about this. I still get shivers when we drop Nef. 40 people working well together for a 15-20 minute fight is always a beautiful thing to me.
That said, that just means content that can't be zerged to me. There's nothing heroic about zerging something. But when a fight takes a wonderful amount of execution from a large group of people, that's outright awesome to me.
Good for you - far too many people raid just for the loot and not for the experience (I was one myself in the second half of my raid career). I'm not arguing against raiding, I'm arguing for variety.