Something to bash on

[Crusader]

Crusader, the 'telegraaf-gehalte' of your post is very high, and it is also a good way to let people think that dutch people are crazy.

Let's not forget that child abuse is happening everywhere, and apparantly the fact that it is illegal does not seem to help (very strange):angry:

I'd rather have this group of people wanting to start a political party and exposing themselves (no pun intended), then that they go out and secretely rape children.

I mean (also to occhi), we all know that among religious people the percentage of pedophiles (or gays) is equal and for sure not smaller than let's say among dutch people in general. As a church you can say thousands of times that pedophiles and gays should burn in hell.....but at the same time the public sees pedophilyscandal after scandal involving priests.....followed by a nice hustle up by the vatican...

If in Holland we hear about incest for example, 9 of the 10 times it happens in a very closed and very religious family. So you can go on and trust everybody that tells to everybody that wants to listen how much he hates pedophiles.....but if it will help....I don't think so.

You see what I mean....just (like shadow pointed out correctly) showing how much we hate what pedophiles do will not solve the problem. This new political party (which will of course like you said never get a seat in the parliament) will not increase the amount of pedophiles. Just like our legalization of soft drugs will not create drug addicts.
We must make sure that we will never let things happen to our childern against their will, a recognized 'party' of pedophiles might just even help us to make sure we can bring child-abuse numbers down. (but that is just speculation of course)

Never seen anchors or corrospondents talking on american channels? the "Back to you" thing was a little joke. :rolleyes:

Anyhow, although in concept I agree to your ideas, I think you're being a tad too tolerant here. Whereas homosexuals and such are concenting adults, children have to be protected from pedophiles, unless you believe sexual contact at age 12 with an adult under any circomstance can be considered a good idea (which I'm sure you don't of course). I'm all for exposing these people, as you said, but in the end it can only be used to keep tabs on them.

Your comparisons are a little poor however, and the 9/10 thing is grabbed out of thin air. I don't know what to do about pedos, really, I have no idea. They can't be locked up without reasons (one can be a pedo and refrain from having sex, for instance, which I would accept as tolerable) and they can't be 'cured' in any way, because there's nothing to cure. they see as having sex with children just as normal as we are hetero- bi- or homosexuals and are no more 'diseased' then any of the groups mentioned before. It's just that they have a very creepy obsession. Will giving that group a voice help at this time? No, I think not, it will only spark hate instead of tolerance for these people. Will they reach their goals? absolutely not. We'll protect our children from pedos with unrelenting vigor. Pedos should not be allowed to have sexual, if any, contact with children, and although this may be cruel to pedophiles, children are simply too vulnurable to negative influences to let them be influenced by them.

There just isn't a simple, humane solution out of this mess, but in the end, we'll always chose for our children over the needs of pedophiles out of sheer human nature to protect our children.