Refining Ragnaros Strategies
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MongoJerry,Mar 22 2006, 05:02 PM Wrote:Trust me, you don't want to get into a shadow priest equipment competition with me.  With my standard PvP setup, I have +356 damage/healing and could get to +420 damage/healing if I wanted to.  That plus the old ZHC makes Neriad quite a face melter.
Genkar has around 7.5k mana raid buffed, and only has +336 dam/heal. It's not the best setup, but I did say 'most shadow priests'. A lot of them sacrifice a fair bit of stats to get +dam/heal, and I recently shifted stuff around to get more stats while not sacrificing much in damage.

MongoJerry,Mar 22 2006, 05:02 PM Wrote:My main issue here is the short 26-yard range of Mind Flay.  Considering that you have Ragnaros then your melee dps then yourself in a line, it seems like you're getting really close to a spot where you can end up grenading the melee dps that you are trying to heal.
There's a channel of lava in between you and the rogues. You might grenade another mana user if they're too close, but they don't have to stand anywhere near as close as you do to the edge of the lava to reach the melee DPS -- and they can stand in completely different spots.

To describe the spot I'm talking about a bit better, the melee 'spot' is practically on top of where Domo stands when you go to talk to him. There's a ledge that sticks out just a hair .. let me see if I have a screenshot of it somewhere. I'll reply later if I find one. Sorry, it's not sounding too clear, maybe I'll just have to take a screenshot of saturday of where I stand.

MongoJerry,Mar 22 2006, 05:02 PM Wrote:Meanwhile, you're expending a great deal of mana, something shadow priests are notoriously short on, dishing out damage rather than healing.  That's great for the first part of the fight, but you'll run out of mana by the time the Sons come around, leaving you coughing and sputtering in the Son's phase and afterward.  Call me old fashioned, but I think that priests of all types deal more damage by keeping other players alive rather than dishing out damage themselves.
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Actually, I push myself to run out of mana when the sons come out, because then they can't burn it away, and I spend the time fighting the sons with wands, letting the melee take them down, and regen via Wisdom and spirit. It works really well, I'll often have about 70% mana back. Some of the stats I found that I sacrificed that hurt the most was spirit. Can't wait to have Spirit Tap back.
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Refining Ragnaros Strategies - by Magicbag - 03-21-2006, 04:55 PM
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