03-18-2006, 01:07 PM
MongoJerry,Mar 16 2006, 09:49 AM Wrote:The ethics involved in this and similar arguments is truly astounding. They boil down to, "If I'm with a group of people I know, then I'll be nice, fair, and generous. If I'm with strangers, then screw them. I want my piece of the action." I don't see things that way. People deserve kindness, fairness, and generosity whether I know them or not. The only difference between a guild run and a pug run to me is what security measures I might put in place (i.e. what loot settings I might use) to prevent outright ninja looting. If a sense of morality and ethics is not enough for you to treat people as people whether you know them or not, then consider that a run with strangers is also an opportunity to meet new players who can become future partymates, raid members, battleground companions, sources of free item manufacture (tailoring, alchemy, enchanting, etc.), and maybe even friends or guildmates.
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The only special treatment I suggested for guildies was that if you were in a guild, you actually have a pool of people large enough that one of them might be able to make good use of a BoE world epic, and since the people doing the run have the same set of friends, there will be no hard feelings about giving it away to someone not on the run. It would be kind of silly for one guildie to put a Krol Blade up on the AH only have another person in the same guild buy it, when the same transfer could be arranged over guild-chat.
The logistics of determining which of the friends of which of the players on a pug will most benefit from an item would make it impractical, so we go with the second best solution of rolling it off to pick someone to sell/use/barter/give away the item as they see fit. Selling the item and splitting the gold would work too, but seems like more trouble than it's worth to me, as 1/10th the AH price of an item and a 1/10 chance at getting the item are pretty much the same thing.
Either way, demanding that you waste the primary advantage of a world epic over some random item that drops in MC -- the very handy BoE feature -- by having one of the people on the run bind the item is just pointless. I fail to see how it demonstrates "kindness, fairness, and generosity" or "ethics". It strikes me as more resembling four hungry people going home hungry because they're all too polite to take the last slice of pizza, which winds up being fed to the dog. I was raised to belive that wasting scarce resources that other people might need was wrong.
-- frink