Occhidiangela,Mar 15 2006, 11:02 AM Wrote:You might want to check the Minutemen's official organization and policies, rather than rumor and speculation. I also suggest you do your own homework, Google is your friend and you earned an advanced degree. As Pete once said about the Internet:
"Once you know the basics of research, you can learn nearly anything."
As the professor of Philology at Faber College once quipped: "Knolidj is gud."
Occhi
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If not the minutemen, there are others?
I heard it in passing that there had been some shoot outs lately with private citizens guarding the border. AM radio news from a local station. They talked about the areas south of San Diego.
Aha.
Quote:You will abide by the laws of Arizona. If you choose to arm yourself, you will do so for the purpose of self defense only; you will never have to take action to defend yourself, for you will abide by the rules of no contact and no engagement. (By the way, no weapons are allowed in the Coronado National Park, but we will not be working there, so no need to go any further).They do carry fire arms. Policy may frown upon their use, but they are in fact, an armed militia. Looks to me, after reading the whole thing, that they are offering public lip service, to ease the minds of the 'bleeding heart liberals.' Mind you, this is just my opinion. You don't take guns along with you to use as decoration and never once pull them out to use them. Sorry, but I don't believe it. If I did, I am sure there would be a nice bridge for me to buy someplace.
Quote:If challenged, you will physically remove yourself from the situation. At this point 'tis better to retreat and preserve the ability to return and fight another day. The idea is for your sidearm to remain holstered for the duration of your visit. There will be absolutely no need to ever remove your firearm from its holster - not for cleaning, not for show-and-tell, not for any reason. By never removing the firearm from the holster, never keeping it chambered and always keeping the safety on and keeping your hands away from it, there can be no accidents. End of discussion. Remove the firearm from the holster for any reason, and your group members will likely send you on your way back home.
Horse crap. Going out in to the desert, in high dust conditions, on patrol, with a working side arm and never once pulling it out to clean it? HORSE CRAP. That's just lip service plain and simple. I've seen these guys on TV and in photos on the net. They are armed!! I've seen them in photos with M16s and mini 14s. In hand. At the ready. Pistols on belt with plenty of ammo. Clips.
The stuff there from the manual is lip service, plain and simple. Anybody with a lick of sense can see right through that.
Bollocks.
Edit.
Also in the manuals. They carefully avoid national parks where they would be deprived of firearms.
All alone, or in twos,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.
And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.
"Isn't this where...."
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.
And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.
"Isn't this where...."