They are looking at the Shaman now

[Rinnhart]

Agreed, Quark.  Stow your negativity somewhere, Rinnhart.  That's all I ever see from you.

:D Quark makes me look like rather optimistic.

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I have a lot of fun raiding.&nbsp; But, I'm not in a 'raid guild' where I'm forced to raid X amount to stay in.&nbsp; I raid when I want, and skip a raid if I want.&nbsp; A lot of times people get tired of raiding because they're in one of the 'top raiding guilds' and they better be available to raid, or they're out.&nbsp; That's just another form of grind.&nbsp; Good for some, not for others.

I've been in guilds of all sizes in four different MMOs. Big ones, you've got the grind (though bigger guilds also clear faster and do more interesting encounters, so the grind really isn't that bad). Little ones, the lack of progression. Middle ones, you're a stepping stone. No one stays in little or medium guilds in which they don't enjoy the people. You stay in a guild because of the people. Thusly, you raid because of the people. Or, you may be one of the anti-social few who only hang around out of personal avarice (granted personal progression is inevitably a motivator for us all).


The elements that make the raid game fun: interesting encounters with nice loot done with decent people, do not have to be presented in so dull a way as a large raid encounter. Small group content, which is what Blizzard originally trumpeted as being their focus, has every advantage over raiding except for the overall replayability of the dungeon. How many hundreds of man hours go in to every piece of loot from MC or BWL? It's more cost effective to develope raid content, so that's what they're going to do, the actual "fun" factor of their game be damned.

I sign up to raid because I get to contribute.&nbsp; I got to MT Onyxia for the first time last night.&nbsp; *That* was fun!&nbsp; Doing warders or doing whelps is fun, too, but not the rush of cornering the beast herself.&nbsp;

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New things are always fun.

MT is the best job on any raid.