As the 'people' you are refering to that raised an objection over your use of "raisins and cocktail weenies" I'll try to clarify what exactly I was objecting to.
In the post Bryant Gumble's Olympic Spirit, Ammonium brought up the historical fact that the Olympics were performed naked. Your reply Doc said
[quote=Doc]Naked man ice skating = two raisins and a cocktail weenie.
NO THANKS. [/quote]
To which I replied
[quote=Munk]Was that comment really needed? whyBish's post opened my eyes to something I hadn't noticed. If a post of a similar nature was made by a new member, I'd be itching to tell them to shape up or ship out. Instead, I draw the line a bit further for older and more frequent posters on the lounge. The upshot of bringing this all up is simple, I think we've all become rather relaxed here. Although it can be a good thing, it isn't a good thing when it spills over into swearing or questionable posts.
I hope its apparent I'm not meaning this squarely at you Doc, although you are the most recent 'offender'. I'm certain that I too have made a number of questionable posts in my time. As whyBish already pointed out, we all adhere to the idea, "Keep it clean. It's PG-13 here".
We could all benefit from tightening up, just a little bit[/quote]
Since there seems to be a misenterpretation of what I am objecting to, I'll clarify my point: I believe that if a post like this was made by a new lounger, they'd quickly be flagged with "clean up or ship out" messages. Not necessarily because it is utterly offensive, but because it crosses the PG-13 line without adding anything constructive to the discussion.
As whyBish was kind enough to quote Elric, ""Keep it clean. It's PG-13 here. Computer games, even those rated "mature" by the ESRB, will have young kids playing them. There's no need to have swear words in your posts - they aren't conducive to intelligent debate or strategy discussion anyhow. We run a clean site and we hope that the posters will respect that."
It's fine to cross the 'PG-13' line from time to time, as you made clear in your post Doc PG-13 movies break the rules here and there. But its fine within certian context, when the offense is 'fitting' to the situation, when it is needed to add an important element to the movie. With that said, plain and simple I felt your post didn't fit any helpful context of the thread.
Now, posts are often times humorous tangents that don't necessarily need to add to a debate or discussion. But they serve a simple purpose, humor. But there is a context where it is appropriate on the lounge. Look at Occhi's post for example, which was a reply to the same topic
[Quote=Occhi] They are close enough to naked to attract lecherous fans. Naked might not work as well when things start flopping about during triple axels. The clothing serves to keep the presentation smooth and well packaged.
I can't believe I just wrote that.[/Occhi]
Occhi dances the line but in a way that isn't as questionably offensive. Now let me be clear here, your post was humorous Doc, but a type of humor that isn't generally accepted on the lurkerlounge. Its a type of shock humor. Crude quips can be funny, but here at the lounge they are frowned upon. If you doubt that, just ask yourself this, if a new poster came to the lounge and wrote "PENIS? GROSS!" do you think it would be long before a stream of "clean up or ship out" replies were made?
There's a line we generally adhere to, and its not as simple as defining swear words that are okay and others that are not. There is a context, a feel, that the lurkerlounge has developed for what is appropriate and what is not. Simply put, I felt it was outside of what is appropriate.
Cheers,
Munk
Edit: Fixed a few odds and ends
In the post Bryant Gumble's Olympic Spirit, Ammonium brought up the historical fact that the Olympics were performed naked. Your reply Doc said
[quote=Doc]Naked man ice skating = two raisins and a cocktail weenie.
NO THANKS. [/quote]
To which I replied
[quote=Munk]Was that comment really needed? whyBish's post opened my eyes to something I hadn't noticed. If a post of a similar nature was made by a new member, I'd be itching to tell them to shape up or ship out. Instead, I draw the line a bit further for older and more frequent posters on the lounge. The upshot of bringing this all up is simple, I think we've all become rather relaxed here. Although it can be a good thing, it isn't a good thing when it spills over into swearing or questionable posts.
I hope its apparent I'm not meaning this squarely at you Doc, although you are the most recent 'offender'. I'm certain that I too have made a number of questionable posts in my time. As whyBish already pointed out, we all adhere to the idea, "Keep it clean. It's PG-13 here".
We could all benefit from tightening up, just a little bit[/quote]
Since there seems to be a misenterpretation of what I am objecting to, I'll clarify my point: I believe that if a post like this was made by a new lounger, they'd quickly be flagged with "clean up or ship out" messages. Not necessarily because it is utterly offensive, but because it crosses the PG-13 line without adding anything constructive to the discussion.
As whyBish was kind enough to quote Elric, ""Keep it clean. It's PG-13 here. Computer games, even those rated "mature" by the ESRB, will have young kids playing them. There's no need to have swear words in your posts - they aren't conducive to intelligent debate or strategy discussion anyhow. We run a clean site and we hope that the posters will respect that."
It's fine to cross the 'PG-13' line from time to time, as you made clear in your post Doc PG-13 movies break the rules here and there. But its fine within certian context, when the offense is 'fitting' to the situation, when it is needed to add an important element to the movie. With that said, plain and simple I felt your post didn't fit any helpful context of the thread.
Now, posts are often times humorous tangents that don't necessarily need to add to a debate or discussion. But they serve a simple purpose, humor. But there is a context where it is appropriate on the lounge. Look at Occhi's post for example, which was a reply to the same topic
[Quote=Occhi] They are close enough to naked to attract lecherous fans. Naked might not work as well when things start flopping about during triple axels. The clothing serves to keep the presentation smooth and well packaged.
I can't believe I just wrote that.[/Occhi]
Occhi dances the line but in a way that isn't as questionably offensive. Now let me be clear here, your post was humorous Doc, but a type of humor that isn't generally accepted on the lurkerlounge. Its a type of shock humor. Crude quips can be funny, but here at the lounge they are frowned upon. If you doubt that, just ask yourself this, if a new poster came to the lounge and wrote "PENIS? GROSS!" do you think it would be long before a stream of "clean up or ship out" replies were made?
There's a line we generally adhere to, and its not as simple as defining swear words that are okay and others that are not. There is a context, a feel, that the lurkerlounge has developed for what is appropriate and what is not. Simply put, I felt it was outside of what is appropriate.
Cheers,
Munk
Edit: Fixed a few odds and ends