02-14-2006, 09:26 PM
Well I did post a link to the SR rule set.
We use the 1b system. See rule 15 in our system. We track attendenance on learning runs and then divide that out over attendance shares. So say 2 failed Luci runs followed by a successful run. Conc makes 2 of the runs, Duramabar 3, Marn is only one, Mogo is on all 3. Luci drops 27 points of loot. Conc earns 6, Durambar 9, Mogo 9, Marn 3. Same deal as you mentioned.
Points are determined by the council which has 3 people each from all 4 of the guilds in the alliance. We started it with the points Tich Basin used. We then modified them based on the itemization formulas Blizzard used and comparitive analysis. Rarity of items is factored in, on a human level to an extent. More desirable items will end up being a bit more valuable less desirable will be worth a bit less. Points have been adjusted on the fly a few times, all changes are retroactive. For example Core Forged Greaves had started at 40 points. They are now 75 points and people who had originally purchased them at 40 were later adjusted to spending 75 and other participants got a few more points for it. If Blizzard changes an item to make it more or less valuable people don't get hosed on this.
Most items are compared to the T1 and T2 set items and adjusted based off those. Set items are generally a bit more expensive for similar stats because of the set
bonuses you can get.
We have upgrade rules for T2 items, and we are looking at using upgrades for some other items right now as well. Upgrades are of course lower priority requests that needs. If I have the helm of might and Ony drops the helm of wrath, I can choose to spend full points to make sure I get it, or I can see if any other warriors put in for it and if they don't I can then purchase it as an upgrade for 30 points. Similarly if I have the T2 helm and the T1 drops and no one else wants it I can get it for free as a downgrade to keep it from being DE'd. Keep in mind that we have point values for nexus crystals so the raid benefits more from a DE than from a downgrade but well if you have 2 pieces of your T1 set and the T2 helm drops it's nice to be able to get it that for the set bonus that you many only want every now and then (for my druid only when casting thorns or as an FR helm) without spending a lot of points for something you will hardly ever wear.
But again we generally just start with the item budget value and hand adjust. Any raider can bring up concerns on the points and we will do adjustments on them if we think they need to be adjusted.
As always all loot distribution is at the RL's discretion though. We have made calls for items to go to the MT to help the entire raid, it puts that person more negative but well when you are trying to get an MT to 255 unbuffed FR sometimes that's the only way to do it. But of course we rotate tanks the gearing is really only important for learning runs. Once you learn it and know what to do people with less gear can usually do the job just fine as well. Or a blue/green equiped tank with purple equipped healers can do it or what not.
Did I miss any other questions?
We use the 1b system. See rule 15 in our system. We track attendenance on learning runs and then divide that out over attendance shares. So say 2 failed Luci runs followed by a successful run. Conc makes 2 of the runs, Duramabar 3, Marn is only one, Mogo is on all 3. Luci drops 27 points of loot. Conc earns 6, Durambar 9, Mogo 9, Marn 3. Same deal as you mentioned.
Points are determined by the council which has 3 people each from all 4 of the guilds in the alliance. We started it with the points Tich Basin used. We then modified them based on the itemization formulas Blizzard used and comparitive analysis. Rarity of items is factored in, on a human level to an extent. More desirable items will end up being a bit more valuable less desirable will be worth a bit less. Points have been adjusted on the fly a few times, all changes are retroactive. For example Core Forged Greaves had started at 40 points. They are now 75 points and people who had originally purchased them at 40 were later adjusted to spending 75 and other participants got a few more points for it. If Blizzard changes an item to make it more or less valuable people don't get hosed on this.
Most items are compared to the T1 and T2 set items and adjusted based off those. Set items are generally a bit more expensive for similar stats because of the set
bonuses you can get.
We have upgrade rules for T2 items, and we are looking at using upgrades for some other items right now as well. Upgrades are of course lower priority requests that needs. If I have the helm of might and Ony drops the helm of wrath, I can choose to spend full points to make sure I get it, or I can see if any other warriors put in for it and if they don't I can then purchase it as an upgrade for 30 points. Similarly if I have the T2 helm and the T1 drops and no one else wants it I can get it for free as a downgrade to keep it from being DE'd. Keep in mind that we have point values for nexus crystals so the raid benefits more from a DE than from a downgrade but well if you have 2 pieces of your T1 set and the T2 helm drops it's nice to be able to get it that for the set bonus that you many only want every now and then (for my druid only when casting thorns or as an FR helm) without spending a lot of points for something you will hardly ever wear.
But again we generally just start with the item budget value and hand adjust. Any raider can bring up concerns on the points and we will do adjustments on them if we think they need to be adjusted.
As always all loot distribution is at the RL's discretion though. We have made calls for items to go to the MT to help the entire raid, it puts that person more negative but well when you are trying to get an MT to 255 unbuffed FR sometimes that's the only way to do it. But of course we rotate tanks the gearing is really only important for learning runs. Once you learn it and know what to do people with less gear can usually do the job just fine as well. Or a blue/green equiped tank with purple equipped healers can do it or what not.
Did I miss any other questions?
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It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.
It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.