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Doc,Jan 2 2006, 02:45 PM Wrote:It's not like those kinds of movies have any sort of real acting in them.
Just look at the Fantastic Four. :whistling:
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Ugh, that movie made me sick. My DvD actually freaked out and died right after the big guy (whatever his name was) got temperarily fixed by the bad guy and I didn't even care. I actually felt a little bit of relief.
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ima_nerd,Jan 3 2006, 12:59 AM Wrote:Ugh, that movie made me sick. My DvD actually freaked out and died right after the big guy (whatever his name was) got temperarily fixed by the bad guy and I didn't even care. I actually felt a little bit of relief.
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The "big guy" was the Thing and the "bad guy" was Doctor Doom.
And yeah, Fantastic Four was a really awful movie. I really have no words to express how awful it was.
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Occhidiangela,Jan 2 2006, 08:13 PM Wrote:Malcolm Reynolds has the attraction of being a leader, albeit a flawed leader. Han Solo was naught but a hired gun and a smuggler. That they both smuggle and don't care for the government is in their favor, Reynolds is better written.
Big surprise. ;)
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Doc,Jan 1 2006, 05:41 AM Wrote:Steve McQueen inspired me to be a better driver.
I no longer have a license or own a car. It's probably for the best. :rolleyes:
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No longer having a license and owning a car.
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Quote:I totally agree. Vin Diesel is no Captain America. He's not even close.
Also, I think that a Captain America film would flop. He is just too one dimensional. As you've already stated, he has no vices. Captain America might work for comics, but I don't see how he can translate into an enjoyable film. Think back to Cyclops in the X-Men films. He was a sucky character because he was too righteous. Captain America is like this only 100x worse. ...
Stories rely on conflict and transition. One reason why characters like Captain America and Cyclops don't draw movie audiences on their own today is because they're written in the wrong place: key leadership positions where they've already earned the respect and loyalty of others. Subsequently there is no character arc with these menâ they become fixtures in the team dynamic.
One way you can make a hero like Captain America work is if you start the story out with him as an underling, the new guy on an established team that has somewhat lost its way in both moral and technical effectiveness. The white-hat starts out fighting his comrades as much as he does the overt villains of the tale. The crisis is wrought, the team is re-forged into a stronger unit, and they end up defeating the bad guys.
Unfortunately, a sequel has the danger of flopping because our good hero is then back in that same fatal position of being the leader with little where else to go as a character.
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Quote:Stories rely on conflict and transition. One reason why characters like Captain America and Cyclops don't draw movie audiences on their own today is because they're written in the wrong place: key leadership positions where they've already earned the respect and loyalty of others. Subsequently there is no character arc with these menâ they become fixtures in the team dynamic.
One way you can make a hero like Captain America work is if you start the story out with him as an underling, the new guy on an established team that has somewhat lost its way in both moral and technical effectiveness. The white-hat starts out fighting his comrades as much as he does the overt villains of the tale. The crisis is wrought, the team is re-forged into a stronger unit, and they end up defeating the bad guys.
Unfortunately, a sequel has the danger of flopping because our good hero is then back in that same fatal position of being the leader with little where else to go as a character.
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Quote:Horray! Porn spam has tricked someone besides me into participating in thread necromancy!
I've reported the spambot. I simply let my answers stew for a while.
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Mark Wahlberg in Shooter was one of the more enjoyable characters I've seen in quite some time; he's also been in Four Brothers and Max Payne. MAX PAYNE.
besides, he was my favorite part of The Departed.
Another vote for Jason Statham as well, there's just something about his clipped, DGAF attitude that makes him seem downright cozy in action films.
And for those who don't know, Tony Jaa as Ong Bak immediately made him the next Jet Li (borderline Bruce Lee).
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Quote:Mark Wahlberg in Shooter was one of the more enjoyable characters I've seen in quite some time; he's also been in Four Brothers and Max Payne. MAX PAYNE.
Shooter was surprisingly good, Four Brothers was great and totally under-appreciated, but Max Payne sucked really bad.
I don't think I see Mark Wahlberg as an action hero though. He was good in a few action movies, but when I see him onscreen I just don't get the "HELL YEAH" feeling that a true action star needs to get generate.
Thomas Jane is another guy I want to add to my original list. I love him so much, and if you haven't seen Mutant Chronicles, you really need to. It's a campy Sci-Fi/Zombie/Action/Shootemup/Steampunk movie that succeeds on all levels. John Malkovich and Ron Perlman are in it so you know it just has to be good.
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Quote:Shooter was surprisingly good, Four Brothers was great and totally under-appreciated, but Max Payne sucked really bad.
I don't think I see Mark Wahlberg as an action hero though. He was good in a few action movies, but when I see him onscreen I just don't get the "HELL YEAH" feeling that a true action star needs to get generate.
Thomas Jane is another guy I want to add to my original list. I love him so much, and if you haven't seen Mutant Chronicles, you really need to. It's a campy Sci-Fi/Zombie/Action/Shootemup/Steampunk movie that succeeds on all levels. John Malkovich and Ron Perlman are in it so you know it just has to be good.
Timothy Olyphant has been in some good action movies lately. I liked him in Hitman, and his role in Live Free or Die Hard. Other than him, I'd vote for Chow Yun-Fat and Jet Li.
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Having just watched Battle of the Warriors (also known as Battle of the Wits) last night, I would nominate Andy Lau in the role of <strike>comic book</strike> graphic novel super hero Ge Li. Lobbing bales of burning sulfur rather reminded me of Wintergrasp -- always a plus. And Bingbing Fan was hot as the cavalry commander, but I won't spoil the ending.
The movie prompted me to read a bit on the Mozi philosophy of universal love. I confess I had never heard of Mozi before.
I'd also like to lend my vote for Nathan Fillion, as others have suggested. I liken Fillion to James Arness. Firefly was really Gunsmoke in Space, which is not alltogether a bad thing. Matt was legal, Mal was illegal. Kitty was illegal, Inara was legal. I wish they would shoot a sequal to Serenity. For that matter I wish they would come out with another Pirates of the Caribbean.
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You're going to laugh but after seeing Liam Neeson in Taken I'm a fan. He's done some amazing movies in the past, and apparently he's been cast as Abe in a Lincoln movie which is pretty cool.
I do like Marky Marky in action movies as well, and Matt Damon did a bang-up job in the Bourn trilogy. Tony Jaa was great in Ong Bak, but the sequel just did nothing for me for some reason.:(
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Oh wow, we get to do this thread again! I have Tropic Thunder and Went the Day Well? home from the library at the moment.
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And to think there are still people opposed to the death penalty. :whistling:
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Quote:Hi,
And to think there are still people opposed to the death penalty. :whistling:
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If it interferes with my proposed 'perpetual torture penalty', then yeah: I have a problem with it.
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