Bryant Gumbel's Olympic spirit.
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Quote:How about either the decathlon or heptathlon?

I would venture that very few/none of these athletes have the hand-eye co-ordination of professional athletes in other sports. Since I count this as being among the most important of one of the most important indicators of pure "natural athletic ability", I heistate to agree. On the other hand, as has been posted (and you pretty much seem to agree) it's pretty tough to, for instance, compare a marathon runner to a basketball player or wrestler.
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Nor I, nor any man that is,
With nothing shall be pleased till he be eased
With being nothing.
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Doc,Feb 19 2006, 09:06 AM Wrote:point for an imperfection they bitch and piss and moan and file a protest. "WAAAAAAAH how dare you tell me I messed up somehow, my mommy who still breastfeeds me every night tells me I am perfect... WAAAAAAAAH!"

Stuff a spear up their whiny pissy little ass and spit them over that flame like the namby pamby Nancy little marshmallows that they are.

And ice skating rinks? Are you nuts? Hell with you if you think I am going to pay money to go inside and freeze my ass off. No way.

It's 30 something degrees outside right now. It's colder than a witch's tit. I've got hot coffee and a warm wood burning stove. You can keep your cold.
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Ashock,Feb 20 2006, 12:00 AM Wrote:Umm, personally I do not view Ice Dancing as a sport. Skill - yes, sport - no. In fact many of the Ice Dancers are failed pairs skaters, including some of the top names from the past. Kick 'em off the Olympics, I say!
No offense though  B)
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The difference between pairs and ice dancing is that pairs requires jumps, while ice dancing requires a higher level of syncronization and technical form. There are hundreds of compulsory dances whose steps are choreographed and must be performed by two people exactly. Like a martial arts Kata.

I'm not fond of judged events either, including gymnastics, synchronized swimming, boxing, and diving.
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Chaerophon,Feb 20 2006, 01:56 AM Wrote:I would venture that very few/none of these athletes have the hand-eye co-ordination of professional athletes in other sports.  Since I count this as being among the most important of one of the most important indicators of pure "natural athletic ability", I heistate to agree.  On the other hand, as has been posted (and you pretty much seem to agree) it's pretty tough to, for instance, compare a marathon runner to a basketball player or wrestler.
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Decathletes have to be all around superb athletes, speed and strength, sprint and distance. not specialists. Pentathletes have to be good shots, good fencers, and good horsemen.

Not sure how I feel about Olympic equestrian events. Who is getting the grade, the horse or the rider?

Occhi
Cry 'Havoc' and let slip the Men 'O War!
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
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Occhidiangela,Feb 20 2006, 07:32 AM Wrote:Decathletes have to be all around superb athletes, speed and strength, sprint and distance. not specialists.  Pentathletes have to be good shots, good fencers, and good horsemen.

Not sure how I feel about Olympic equestrian events.  Who is getting the grade, the horse or the rider?

Occhi
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Ever seen the German Ladies swim team? Talk about your equestrian events. The horse and the rider all rolled in to one.

**Shudder**

Please, no horsey sounds. I'll be here all night.
All alone, or in twos,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.

"Isn't this where...."
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Doc,Feb 20 2006, 09:14 AM Wrote:Ever seen the German Ladies swim team? Talk about your equestrian events. The horse and the rider all rolled in to one.

**Shudder**

Please, no horsey sounds. I'll be here all night.

I assume you are referencing the famous doping incident of the Women German's Swim team of 1976. Since they were taking heavily loads of hormones, their bodies certainly were 'man like'.

But the modern German swim team is no different than swim teams from other countries. Take Anne Poleska for example, who won the 200 meter breaststroke in Athens 04.

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I understand it was a joke, but it fell flat out of the starting gate.

Cheers,

Munk

Edit: Clarifying
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Munkay,Feb 20 2006, 09:24 AM Wrote:[Image: pre-483D0483.jpg]

Munk
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Another combined fit and pretty athlete is the young lady from the Netherlands who won the 1000m or 2000m (I forget which) speed skating. She posted a hot time and let the rest take a run at it. (Canada silver and Germany bronze.) We watched all of the races rather by accident.

Then came the post race interview with the gold medal winner.

The moron interviewer from NBC was pouring leading questions all over the ice. In 30 seconds, I was so disgusted that I turned off the TV, having seen the young lady handle this idiot with grace and patience. She's an all star in my book.

Exporting stupidity, NBC's trademark.

Occhi
Cry 'Havoc' and let slip the Men 'O War!
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete
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Occhidiangela,Feb 20 2006, 10:57 AM Wrote:Another combined fit and pretty athlete is the young lady from the Netherlands who won the 1000m or 2000m (I forget which) speed skating.  She posted a hot time and let the rest take a run at it.  (Canada silver and Germany bronze.)  We watched all of the races rather by accident. 

Then came the post race interview with the gold medal winner. 

The moron interviewer from NBC was pouring leading questions all over the ice.  In 30 seconds, I was so disgusted that I turned off the TV, having seen the young lady handle this idiot with grace and patience.  She's an all star in my book.

Exporting stupidity, NBC's trademark.

Occhi
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NBC.

Nothing But Crap.
All alone, or in twos,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.

"Isn't this where...."
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Occhidiangela,Feb 20 2006, 10:57 AM Wrote:Another combined fit and pretty athlete is the young lady from the Netherlands who won the 1000m or 2000m (I forget which) speed skating.  She posted a hot time and let the rest take a run at it.  (Canada silver and Germany bronze.)  We watched all of the races rather by accident.

After a little bit of Google-Fu, her name was Marianne Timmer and she competed in the 1000m Speed Skate. She won by 4/100th's of a second.

Occhidiangela,Feb 20 2006, 10:57 AM Wrote:Then came the post race interview with the gold medal winner. 

The moron interviewer from NBC was pouring leading questions all over the ice.  In 30 seconds, I was so disgusted that I turned off the TV, having seen the young lady handle this idiot with grace and patience.  She's an all star in my book.

Exporting stupidity, NBC's trademark.

Occhi

I second that sentiment. I felt even the NBC interview of Lindsey Jacobellis crossed a line. I too turned off the television, after watching them practically bring her to tears. I'm sure the opinions over Lindsey Jacobellis differ on the lounge, but I still feel at the end of the day it was wrong of NBC to lay her out on national television.

Cheers,

Munk
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Munkay,Feb 20 2006, 03:24 PM Wrote:I assume you are referencing the famous doping incident of the Women German's Swim team of 1976.  Since they were taking heavily loads of hormones, their bodies certainly were 'man like'.
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It was the EAST German swimming team! They kept up that tradition until the end in Seoul in 1988. The East German athletes in the German Team after 1989 often had trouble, IIRC the name you should look for is Kristin Otto in her active days, biiig muscles.
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#31
I hate the NBC style sports coverage. Dick Ebersol is aptly named.

Im not interested in most Olympic events, but thanks to the human interest focused coverage NBC has perfected I dont even watch events i like.

Fortunetly NBC is getting #$%&ty ratings this year. Maybe in time a better format will develope where we can more easily see the events we like and skip the insperational stories.

The few event I do like I would happily watch with no voice overs or even amature voice overs.
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#32
Don't forget that the original olympians were naked.


That might make ice dancing worth watching :whistling:
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Ammonium,Feb 20 2006, 07:35 PM Wrote:Don't forget that the original olympians were naked.
That might make ice dancing worth watching  :whistling:
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They are close enough to naked to attract lecherous fans. Naked might not work as well when things start flopping about during triple axels. The clothing serves to keep the presentation smooth and well packaged.

I can't believe I just wrote that.

Occhi
Cry 'Havoc' and let slip the Men 'O War!
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
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#34
Naked man ice skating = two raisins and a cocktail weenie.

NO THANKS.

All alone, or in twos,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.

"Isn't this where...."
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#35
Doc,Feb 21 2006, 12:16 AM Wrote:Naked man ice skating = two raisins and a cocktail weenie.

NO THANKS.

Was that comment really needed? whyBish's post opened my eyes to something I hadn't noticed. If a post of a similar nature was made by a new member, I'd be itching to tell them to shape up or ship out. Instead, I draw the line a bit further for older and more frequent posters on the lounge. The upshot of bringing this all up is simple, I think we've all become rather relaxed here. Although it can be a good thing, it isn't a good thing when it spills over into swearing or questionable posts.

I hope its apparent I'm not meaning this squarely at you Doc, although you are the most recent 'offender'. I'm certain that I too have made a number of questionable posts in my time. As whyBish already pointed out, we all adhere to the idea, "Keep it clean. It's PG-13 here".

We could all benefit from tightening up, just a little bit.

Cheers,

Munk
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Munkay,Feb 21 2006, 12:56 AM Wrote:Was that comment really needed?  whyBish's post opened my eyes to something I hadn't noticed.  If a post of a similar nature was made by a new member, I'd be itching to tell them to shape up or ship out.  Instead, I draw the line a bit further for older and more frequent posters on the lounge.  The upshot of bringing this all up is simple, I think we've all become rather relaxed here.  Although it can be a good thing, it isn't a good thing when it spills over into swearing or questionable posts.

I hope its apparent I'm not meaning this squarely at you Doc, although you are the most recent 'offender'.  I'm certain that I too have made a number of questionable posts in my time.  As whyBish already pointed out, we all adhere to the idea, "Keep it clean. It's PG-13 here".

We could all benefit from tightening up, just a little bit.

Cheers,

Munk
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Well dang... We can look at naked succubi and blood and guts and gore in Diablo, but we can't handle the mention of two raisins and a cocktail weenie.

Now I am cornfuzzled.

Personally, I find the East German Ladies Swim Team far more offensive...
All alone, or in twos,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.

"Isn't this where...."
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#37
Look, it's not just me saying it now, Doc. Clean up your posts.
Why can't we all just get along

--Pete
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Griselda,Feb 21 2006, 01:21 AM Wrote:Look, it's not just me saying it now, Doc.  Clean up your posts.
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I did. I said "dang" as an intentional effort to reduce adult themed words in my posts.

I still may occasionally slip up and say "Aw shucks!"

I do apologise in advance.

Hi Gris, how's life treating you? Haven't seen you around in a while. Looking forward to Spring Break? How is little Gris?

I must say a vast majority of my posts are actually completely harmless. I will confess I slip up now and then, but no more so than a couple of other posters around here, and some of them even have mod or admin badges. :whistling:

Edit. Not only do I clean up my own posts, I clean up the disgusting leavings of others saving Gris valuable time.

Doc,Feb 1 2006, 01:52 AM Wrote:Somehow, I get the feeling, if this thread goes on, Gris is going to come and spoil our little party.

This is probably the point where we look fondly over the edge and decide it's time to turn back eh?
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See, some times I am the voice of reason. But thanks to the power of selective memory, nobody remembers those times... People only remember what they chose to.

**Shrug**
All alone, or in twos,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.

"Isn't this where...."
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#39
Look you make vulgur posts on practically a weekly basis. If you want to defend that as a point itself fine. But mentioning one time you were reasonable doesnt really have any bearing on your long term pattern.

Wouldnt it be silly if when someone complained about my spelling I said - "Hey last week I complained about someone elses grammer so its ok."?
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Ghostiger,Feb 21 2006, 02:19 AM Wrote:Look you make vulgur posts on practically a weekly basis. If you want to defend that as a point itself fine. But mentioning one time you were reasonable doesnt really have any bearing on your long term pattern.

Wouldnt it be silly if when someone complained about my spelling I said - "Hey last week I complained about someone elses grammer so its ok."?
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You know, what makes this funny is that I have stepped in to defend you when somebody crosses the line.

And it is "grammar" :blush:

Some days I am the voice of reason. On others, discord. Meh.
All alone, or in twos,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.

"Isn't this where...."
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