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Leadership of our guild - Alram - 03-08-2006

I am having some issues with the hours I play affecting my real-life. Taking a week off from playing really didn't really help all that much; I need to make some long-term changes. I talk about in more detail in this thread. I think the Terenas lurkers will need to select a new guild leader. Please understand that I really enjoy playing with you folks, and I couldn't ask for a better group of people to spend time with. In addition to a guild leader somebody will also need to have super admin status at the Guild portal web site. I'll back off and let you folks discuss who should lead the Guild and how you'll decide. GG or Treesh get first crack at it however, since they founded the Guild.

I will keep my Terenas characters for now and probably will continue to join you for awhile, but I just cannot stay up really late anymore to play. In Terenas server time for me, late is after 9 PM, and really late is after 10 PM; unacceptably late is after 11 PM. Unfortunately that doesn't work for most of the rest of you. It is with regret that I leave.


Leadership of our guild - vor_lord - 03-08-2006

Alram,Mar 7 2006, 05:46 PM Wrote:It is with regret that I leave.
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:o :( :o :( :o :( :o :( :o :(

*cries*




Leadership of our guild - Kevin - 03-08-2006

There will have to be some thought on this for sure. I fully understand your decision. Heck I had to make a similar one many months ago when you took the helm from me though for different reasons.

I hope things work out for you though. The times only work for Treesh and I because her work is essentially 10 am to 7pm Terenas time so the start times for her work out alright.

Treesh and I will have to talk some about the guild and us on Terenas as well.


Leadership of our guild - Treesh - 03-08-2006

Alram, you've done a fantastic job as guild leader. Real life has always come first so you do what you need to do. Many hugs (hordely ones even ;) ). And yeah, GG and I will talk.


Leadership of our guild - Urza-DSF - 03-08-2006

As always behind ya 100% Alram, and the rest of you all on Terenas. That and your seconded on the opinion that Real Life™, espically jobs and whatnot, make things a huge pain for us all.


Leadership of our guild - VoiceMan - 03-08-2006

Well, golly gee, Wally!! I think it's Alram's "fault" ( I use the word fault with much affection) that I have two capped toons within the first 8 months of me buying the game. I was able to duo my way through much of the levelling with two characters with Alram. You will be missed, but I also echo what others have said: Real life, while not always as much fun, must always take priority. You will be missed indeed.


Leadership of our guild - bonemage - 03-09-2006

This is sad news indeed. Best of luck to you and yours.


Leadership of our guild - Treesh - 03-09-2006

After much debate with GG and much thinking, I do believe that I'm ready to take back control of the guild, even with knowing that trying to really get a good alliance going is a hassle. And yes, you will be seeing more of me on Terenas. I need to do many, many things over there with Mogo that I didn't need to do with Aleri or Eth so I will be over there more anyway, regardless of being guild leader or not. :)

And you have no idea how hard it is to try and phrase "yeah, I want the guild back" without sounding pretentious and without belittling what Alram has done. So I gave up, wrote what I wrote and then this explanation. ;)


Leadership of our guild - Concillian - 03-09-2006

Treesh,Mar 8 2006, 06:11 PM Wrote:And you have no idea how hard it is to try and phrase "yeah, I want the guild back" without sounding pretentious and without belittling what Alram has done. 
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I think you should have written
"Hell yes I want the guild back you little pricks"

Because then you wouldn't have had to worry about that... we would instantly realize you were joking and all subversive thoughts would disappear in fits of laughter.


Leadership of our guild - Concillian - 03-09-2006

I am also sorry that you will be on less Alram, Concillian and Magead "grew up together" and there is a part of me that fondly remembers the evenings of duoing with you. It's unfortunate that our play times drifted apart, as married life has pushed my playtime to consistently late, I'm usually coming on about the time you are ready to leave =(.

Good luck with finding a group your schedule meshes better with, and, of course, good luck with your RL issues. If I ever visit my Aunt and Uncle in Marble Falls, I will be sure to let you know so we can meet (my cousin lives in Austin proper too).


Leadership of our guild - Alram - 03-09-2006

Concillian,Mar 8 2006, 09:30 PM Wrote:I am also sorry that you will be on less Alram, Concillian and Magead "grew up together" and there is a part of me that fondly remembers the evenings of duoing with you.  It's unfortunate that our play times drifted apart, as married life has pushed my playtime to consistently late, I'm usually coming on about the time you are ready to leave =(.

Good luck with finding a group your schedule meshes better with, and, of course, good luck with your RL issues.  If I ever visit my Aunt and Uncle in Marble Falls, I will be sure to let you know so we can meet (my cousin lives in Austin proper too).
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I remember the first time you ever got mageweave off a mob in Arathi. And how we figured out AoE as a duo. Also many many other times. Do give me a buzz if you come through Austin.

It looks like we might get a thing going on weekends in the daytime which will mean I can still stick around Terenas some. I have begun playing a lock on SR.


Leadership of our guild - Treesh - 03-09-2006

Concillian,Mar 8 2006, 08:26 PM Wrote:I think you should have written
"Hell yes I want the guild back you little pricks"

Because then you wouldn't have had to worry about that... we would instantly realize you were joking and all subversive thoughts would disappear in fits of laughter.
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Hehe. I should have, but I was still in "be very politic with all responses to folks" mode since I just got back from work a little bit before making the post. ;)


Leadership of our guild - swirly - 03-09-2006

Treesh,Mar 8 2006, 08:11 PM Wrote:I do believe that I'm ready to take back control of the guild
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Wasn't GG technically the guild leader before? Which would mean you technically aren't taking back control, but rather usurping it for yourself. ; ) Or maybe I missed the time when you were the leader instead of him. : )


Leadership of our guild - Kevin - 03-09-2006

swirly,Mar 9 2006, 12:52 AM Wrote:Wasn't GG technically the guild leader before?  Which would mean you technically aren't taking back control, but rather usurping it for yourself. ; )  Or maybe I missed the time when you were the leader instead of him. : )
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Marn was the guild leader, yes. But well it was such a tiny guild. Started really because Treesh and I were tired of "Join my guild! Hey you wanna join my guild!" stuff. At least that is what prompted it and I knew there were a few other lurkers who were on the server. So it was both of us. Marn had the ultimate power though, yes.

However I still don't want to be named Guild Leader even if I can log into Treesh's account. She does, but you get us both generally with anything like this as you know. :)


Leadership of our guild - swirly - 03-09-2006

Gnollguy,Mar 9 2006, 12:54 AM Wrote:but you get us both generally with anything like this as you know.  :)
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Yeah I know, I was just poking fun at her like usual. : )


Leadership of our guild - Tal - 03-09-2006

Welcome to a position that can make you feel like the most loved and most hated person at the same time. :)

Good luck to you and GG in forming the partnerships necessary for the fine Lurkers on Terenas to raid in the end game. I'll try to get my druid or shaman capped so I can raid with you guys. :D


Leadership of our guild - Treesh - 03-09-2006

Tal,Mar 9 2006, 07:34 AM Wrote:Welcome to a position that can make you feel like the most loved and most hated person at the same time. :)

As long as you don't go around riling everyone up over there, it'll be easier for me than it is for you because we're smaller. ;)

Tal,Mar 9 2006, 07:34 AM Wrote:Good luck to you and GG in forming the partnerships necessary for the fine Lurkers on Terenas to raid in the end game. I'll try to get my druid or shaman capped so I can raid with you guys. :D
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Yeah, that's going to be the trickiest part of the whole thing. :) And \o/ to someone else who can raid with us. Powerlevel it monkey! ;) :D


Leadership of our guild - Treesh - 03-09-2006

swirly,Mar 8 2006, 11:52 PM Wrote:Wasn't GG technically the guild leader before?  Which would mean you technically aren't taking back control, but rather usurping it for yourself. ; )  Or maybe I missed the time when you were the leader instead of him. : )
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Usurper! As GG said, yeah, it was Marn who was original leader, but that was only because he wanted to see firsthand just what kind of tools were available to the guild leader so he could help Tal on Stormrage.


Leadership of our guild - vor_lord - 03-09-2006

Treesh,Mar 8 2006, 07:11 PM Wrote:And you have no idea how hard it is to try and phrase "yeah, I want the guild back" without sounding pretentious and without belittling what Alram has done.  So I gave up, wrote what I wrote and then this explanation. ;)
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I, for one, welcome our new Tauren overlords :P


Leadership of our guild - Mirajj - 03-09-2006

Treesh,Mar 9 2006, 10:09 AM Wrote:As long as you don't go around riling everyone up over there, it'll be easier for me than it is for you because we're smaller. ;)

*Sneaks over and riles things up a little*

Quote:Yeah, that's going to be the trickiest part of the whole thing. :)  And \o/ to someone else who can raid with us.  Powerlevel it monkey! ;) :D
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While not into powerlevelling, my toon there is coming along swimmingly. ;)