Quote:Who will be able to make it at that time? I know Vman has family commitments that night, vor_lord and I rarely are on that early (it's right when I get home) but are trying to work it out, and Treesh has the Stormrage all girls suicide run. GG can't go as he is under orders of the highest authority not to lead the guild alliance. I know that Alram will be there, but he is... (how do I put this)... keyboardally challenged.Anybody who is active in the Terenas lurkers guild is welcome to attend. I will be present and if you are unable to make it but have anything you wish me to address please let me know.
Of course it is no secret that I can't type worth beans. For years I have used voice recognition software. After reading the comment that bone mage made about my keyboard skills, I spent some time experimenting with running world of war craft in windowed mode and using my voice recognition software to enter chat messages. The experiment was successful and use of the voice recognition software significantly speeds up my chat. There is no way this system would function for me adequately while playing. However for purposes of chat only, it works. If a speed typist in our guild can be present who will type what I say in Teamspeak, that works too.
Also keep in mind that there will probably be future discussions with this guild that will present further opportunities for folks to talk with them.
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Quote:One of my concerns, is schedule. Is our later start time gonig to make 4 hours in ZG impossible for them? We need to discuss big raid night plans.Good point. I will be sure to bring this up.
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Quote:However, it is my opinion that detailed loot rules (or detailed rules of any sort for that matter) need to be in a written form. An internet forum is probably the most appropriate place to have the give and take, and revisions that such details should have. Any disputes can refer to the kept-up-to-date version of the document. While initial conversations can be done through in-game chat, a written document must ultimately result.The lurkers on Terenas have never had a written document that lays out the loot rules. We also have never engaged in long drawn out discussions about precisely how loot rules should be implemented. In spite of this we have a fair system that works for us. The major reason our looting system works is that we are mature people who enjoy playing together and treat one another fairly.
The idea of having a written document which lays out the loot rules sounds good on paper; however, I would prefer not to have a guild alliance made up of attorneys who refer to a written document for resolution of disputes. In fact I would prefer to have the loot rules be as simple as possible in order to avoid conflict and misinterpretation. Accordingly I propose the following modifications to GG's suggestions(items in quotes come directly from GG's post):
Quote:Base rule: You may win one blue/purple per run. Further items of this classification may end up being yours because nobody else wants them, but you are limited to winning one of these items by Need per run.
Quote:1. green/blue BoEs: roll need if you need it on the toon you are playing, roll greed otherwise; discussions on whether the need to give the item to an alt or someone in particular who is not on the raid may be taken up after the roll, but the item's winner has final say.
2. All the BOP's, purples and important unique items such as pieces of the key to UBRS: everyone passes. The raid will then decide how the items are distributed. Initially this method might take more time. Hopefully, over time as trust evolves we may be able to progress to need rolls on such items.
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Quote:BOP repeatable quest drops (Corruptor's Scourgestones and the like) : roll need until you've gotten one on this raid. Roll greed thereafter. If you're already exalted with AD, PASS.
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Quote:Chromatic Scales, Abomination Stitchings, etc: If you need them, roll need until you've gotten one on this raid; shift to greed thereafter. If you don't need them (which includes not knowing what they're for), PASS.
In theory over time both guilds should receive equal loot distributions. We all know that there are nights or even weeks at a stretch when some people seem to win or lose all the rolls. We might therefore additionally consider some mechanism to address this should it become a problem.
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Quote:Do they have an online forum to discuss these things? If so, can we discuss it there? If not, can we discuss it here?Their guild officer did not mention a web site to me, though I did not specifically ask him. They are certainly welcome to utilize this forum should they so choose.
Feedback is welcome.