Decided to keep a list of topics/points of discussion, with some of my opinions on the topic, feedback requested. It seems that we may only have Alram and myself, and that leaves me as the typist for tomorrow. VoiceMan and vor_lord are not likely to attend, and I'm a little iffy. Treesh, anyway to push back the suicide girls a half hour or so? We could really use you.
Loot: Should be ironed out offline in a forum somewhere, needs to be written so there is a reference to resolve disputes, and agreed upon by both sides.
Goals: What do both sides hope to gain from the alliance? ZG? AQ20? 40 man raids if we get big enough?
Leadership: They want 2 raid leaders, one per guild, this is a good idea, but needs to be ironed out concerning pulling. I think that the two raid leaders need to ensure/enforce that any members of their guild are playing right, and the leaders should work together to resolve disputes. We don't want a disagreement to be addressed in raid chat. Members with issues need to whisper their raid leader, and that raid leader take it up in whispers with the other raid leader if there is a problem. There will be disputes, but this is a way to address it without PUG style CAPS screaming matches. Dumb things are said, feelings hurt, friendships and alliances crumble in scenarios like that. We need to have a way to resolve conflicts in a mature, mediated fashion.
Schedule: Is there adequate time between their schedule and ours for progress to be made?
Culture: We need to maintain who we are as a group, and they want to as well. We need to play well, cooperate, and respect the other members of a group. Bad play, jerks, and loot-whores are all unacceptable things. We can coach players if they are mature, cooperative people who may lack in game skills. We can't coach people to be mature.
Tactics: Do they use a Main Assist? How is pulling handled? There should be a brief discussion on tactics, but it must be brief. A better idea of tactics will be gained upon playing with them. Pulling should be a seperate function from raid leadership, and there should be only one per raid. It may or may not be a raid leader, but one puller needs to be selected, accepted, and supported by both raid leaders and therefore the entire raid.
Edit: I'm unsure how detailed or how much they want to discuss in tomorrow's meeting. I figure this way, I can be prepared. They may just want to briefly touch base.
Loot: Should be ironed out offline in a forum somewhere, needs to be written so there is a reference to resolve disputes, and agreed upon by both sides.
Goals: What do both sides hope to gain from the alliance? ZG? AQ20? 40 man raids if we get big enough?
Leadership: They want 2 raid leaders, one per guild, this is a good idea, but needs to be ironed out concerning pulling. I think that the two raid leaders need to ensure/enforce that any members of their guild are playing right, and the leaders should work together to resolve disputes. We don't want a disagreement to be addressed in raid chat. Members with issues need to whisper their raid leader, and that raid leader take it up in whispers with the other raid leader if there is a problem. There will be disputes, but this is a way to address it without PUG style CAPS screaming matches. Dumb things are said, feelings hurt, friendships and alliances crumble in scenarios like that. We need to have a way to resolve conflicts in a mature, mediated fashion.
Schedule: Is there adequate time between their schedule and ours for progress to be made?
Culture: We need to maintain who we are as a group, and they want to as well. We need to play well, cooperate, and respect the other members of a group. Bad play, jerks, and loot-whores are all unacceptable things. We can coach players if they are mature, cooperative people who may lack in game skills. We can't coach people to be mature.
Tactics: Do they use a Main Assist? How is pulling handled? There should be a brief discussion on tactics, but it must be brief. A better idea of tactics will be gained upon playing with them. Pulling should be a seperate function from raid leadership, and there should be only one per raid. It may or may not be a raid leader, but one puller needs to be selected, accepted, and supported by both raid leaders and therefore the entire raid.
Edit: I'm unsure how detailed or how much they want to discuss in tomorrow's meeting. I figure this way, I can be prepared. They may just want to briefly touch base.
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Dagorthan – Level 85 Blood Knight
Turothan – Level 83 Blood Knight
Sarothan – Level 62 Blood Knight
Durambar – Level 82 Warrior
Strifemourne – Level 80 Death Knight
Dagorthan – Level 85 Blood Knight
Turothan – Level 83 Blood Knight
Sarothan – Level 62 Blood Knight
Durambar – Level 82 Warrior
Strifemourne – Level 80 Death Knight