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[Xame]

As GG said, so much to respond to.

Yuri will be there for a late night run. NOS didn't charge me any DKP for my Arcanist Boots http://thottbot.com/?i=36042 so I'm feeling a bit guilty of doing two MC runs and then walking away with the loot.

Vor_lord and myself have had several discussions about end game guild alliances. I'm a very very tolerent person, but I got headaches from my MC runs. Each night was 4-5hrs on a run that should take <45mins. Our raid leader was very good (for what appears to be his first time leading, but appears to have run MC as a tagalong many many times). He explained the fights very carefully and placed the raid well. ~35/40 people followed directions and did as they where told. QUIETLY and correctly did their jobs. ~5 people just didn't get it (different people on different fights and a constant group of people coming and going). Concepts such as "sunder count", 16 debuff limit and dps on/off needed to be gone over in very painful detail, sometimes repeatedly. And some people I believe never "got-it", since the warlocks/priests/hunters filled the 16 slots with debuffs on sunder 1. "Hey, Einni said no dps right, debuffs are ok?"

The headaches come from wanting to open your mouth and says things. It is like a scream that just cann't come out. How in the hell did you get to 60, get the gear to go to MC and be so clueless. The raid leader, to his credit, kept his cool and was very upbeat and positive. I personally would have started kicking people after the second pull. Yes we needed all of their blue/green dps to finish Luci. But the cost of my headache...... As I said 30-35 people had their act together but after 2-3hrs and a few wipes, some of them needed to start expressing themselves on Vent. Again, drama and my headache. The raid leader held it all together for the final kill on Luci.

Once Luci was down the masterlooter picked up SOME of the loot and started passing it out. Yuri rolled an uber 79 to bring the boots home against 3 other mages. Sure enough, someone walked up to the Core hound pack and aggros it. Raid wipe. The raid needed to re-rez to finish the looting processes (thanks for the extra 10% on the repair bill).

After the MC raid, Yuri did a Strat dead with Lurkers. Night and day. The amount of explaination was a low. The converstation was fun and I had a great time. Similar to the joy I felt on our first day in UBRS with GG explaining the fight and us executing it. Pure joy in the game. Knowing some of the lurkers in real life, they would not tolerate people not being able to follow directions for 4-5hrs. A raid is "work" and you don't get to express your "style" when you are part of the DPS pack: groups 3-8. But every single person can wipe the raid by acting stupid.

Thus, to keep the game fun I want a guild alliance with like minded mature people. The majority of people I encounter in the game are of this type. Some haven't learn to play well (mechanics of aggro, dps, healing etc), but will take advice and up their game. What I don't want is a guild alliance with a guild that cann't keep their "Wankers" in check.

GG, I cann't speak for everyone but I believe that we are looking to you and Treesh for advice on how not to screw up. Treesh is right, there will be drama. You have also suffered through it once (or twice :P ) on Stormrage. Hopefully we can put something together that will make the game more fun.

On a different point, Vent vs TS. Stick with TS. Almost all guilds use Vent so you should have it handly (NOS, Nightmare Syndicate, BoV, Thrall's Champions are Vent servers I've been on). Everyone also appears to use TS because it's the "other" choice. TS has some advantages in raids in that you can as the leader turn off other people's mics. Although we laugh/yell/cry about it when Gantor brings dinner to a run, it is completely unacceptable to me personally to listen to it for 4-5hrs (personal experiance here) when you are expected to be quiet yourself.

Thanks GG and Treesh for all of the FR gear you have made/found for me.