12-17-2005, 09:35 PM
"You paint a calculated picture than reasonable people DONT believe."
I'm afraid you'll have to decipher that one for me, Ghostie. Did you mean "that" rather than "than"? If so, I disagree. The evidence is available and clear. If you meant something else, sorry for putting words in your mouth.
As for the rest, okay, so you're saying they saw Saddam as a genuine threat?
Bush probably is that stupid. I wouldn't bet on him successfully tying his shoes, let alone analyzing global military strategy.
But the rest of the PNAC crowd aren't. They knew full well that Saddam was a pathetic shell commanding a collapsed country. They knew that the chances of him actually having any dangerous quantity of low-grade chemical weapons, let alone anything in the high-biological or nuclear range, were slim to none. They cherry-picked their evidence, they forced the worst-case scenario. They undermined every attempt to solve the "crisis," which was an artifice created by the Bush administration, without war.
Why would they do all that? Either they're the most singlemindedly stupid group in history, or they were after what PNAC has always (and openly) been after: a military solution to a percieved weakness in the middle east.
If you see that as incompetence, and not intention, then I think you need to look harder at the evidence, and especially at how it was relentlessly pushed. They didn't just fall into a trap, they created the trap, sold it to the world, and rushed at it with all haste.
-Jester
I'm afraid you'll have to decipher that one for me, Ghostie. Did you mean "that" rather than "than"? If so, I disagree. The evidence is available and clear. If you meant something else, sorry for putting words in your mouth.
As for the rest, okay, so you're saying they saw Saddam as a genuine threat?
Bush probably is that stupid. I wouldn't bet on him successfully tying his shoes, let alone analyzing global military strategy.
But the rest of the PNAC crowd aren't. They knew full well that Saddam was a pathetic shell commanding a collapsed country. They knew that the chances of him actually having any dangerous quantity of low-grade chemical weapons, let alone anything in the high-biological or nuclear range, were slim to none. They cherry-picked their evidence, they forced the worst-case scenario. They undermined every attempt to solve the "crisis," which was an artifice created by the Bush administration, without war.
Why would they do all that? Either they're the most singlemindedly stupid group in history, or they were after what PNAC has always (and openly) been after: a military solution to a percieved weakness in the middle east.
If you see that as incompetence, and not intention, then I think you need to look harder at the evidence, and especially at how it was relentlessly pushed. They didn't just fall into a trap, they created the trap, sold it to the world, and rushed at it with all haste.
-Jester