12-15-2005, 06:29 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-15-2005, 06:36 PM by Occhidiangela.)
eppie,Dec 15 2005, 04:43 AM Wrote:By the way, in Holland we don't have puppet masters behind the scenes...otherwise they would never have chosen the harry potter look-a-like as prime minister.Yes you do, you are just ignorant of who they are. Look a little deeper. Enjoy the ride.
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Quote:Ok and that settled. Doesn't this bug you? Why doesn't the american public demand a change?. Why does 95 % of voters keep voting for Dems or Reps? I don't understand this anymore
1. Why don't the European people demand a change from their dependence on America for security? Simple reason, there are various groups who view this matter with greatly differing perspectives. "American people" and "European people" are useless groupings within the context of your question, and my mimcry of it. An even more useless term is "Iraqi people." That chimerical entity doesn't exist either.
2. Since only about 60-70 of the US voters showed up in Nov 2004, your numbers are badly off.
3. No US third party has gained traction since no third party can seem to break in at the local level. As for Presidential candidates of various third parties
John Anderson 1980
Teddy Roosevelt 1912
Ross Perot 1992
George Wallace 1968
Ralph Nader 2000
And others.
Most seemed to act as spoilers. Roosevelt in the Bull Moose party, a spin off of Progressive Republicans from the core of the GOP, did considerable damage to Taft and ensured Woodrow Wilson became president. Perot did something similar to GHW Bush in 1992, though he took a different breed of voter: populists.
The populist party has yet to be rebuilt. I will argue that the Democratic party of Andrew Jackson was a populist party. It was eventually hijacked by semi-socialist internationalists, starting around the Wilsonian era, and further hijacked by not so moderate socialists in 1964-1968. So much for that line of a Populist party in the US. The Libertarians are to fractured to mount a valid run at rebuilding one. The Current Republican party seems to be heading toward Taft's model. :wacko:
The current two parties have no interest in there being a third party, and they act with vigor to preempt the creation of one.
Occhi
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In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete