Harold Pinter acknowledgement speech

[eppie]

Dear eppie

You are wrong again.  I am not defending George Bush in my post.  You are reading something into the post that is not there.  My aim was to apply some critical analysis to Mr Pinter's speach, to jab at his residence in English "has been" land and false Utopia, and to offer some reality based comments on the utopian standard he chooses to apply to US policy for 60 years. 

Okay, point taken, sorry that I misunderstood you. But, don't you think mister Pinter is aware of the things you wrote in your post?. And more general, it is a simple fact that the most powerful party, draws the most criticism, and as a matter of fact most of that criticism is legit. And I know a lot of other countries also conduct some very dubious behaviour, but I'm the first to help you in criticizing them as well. Because, as I said many times, I don't blame a whole people for the actions of few.

I will ask you to not see everything I write as anti-European, since it isn't and I'm not.  You forget that I lived 9 years of my life in Europe, and like it very much, even though some of the political posturing strikes me as self destructive, false and counterintuitive.  Quite a bit of American politics strikes me the same way.  :o 

Yes I know, but..south of Italy or not? Now I can see why you are so euro negative :D .

This is not Occhi versus Europe, and indeed, I am not anti Europe, I am anti-Eurotrash, a very small but loud sub set of Europe who whine to the world's ending about the evil empire that is America.  When you place yourself in that camp, perhaps unintentionally, during forum conversations by the positions you take, you mistakenly deduce that I must be anti-Europe.  I am anti-wanker.  :o

In understand Occhi, but don't you ever wonder why "anti-americanism" has become much more widspread during the last few years? I think many europeans are not so anti-american as you might think.

I see, eppie, only America does not play by "the rules."  Right.  What other bridge are you going to try to sell me?  Any "True Scotsmen" around?  :P  When you spew the slanted saliva that Pinter does in some of his points, you echo his unspoken assertion that "everyone else" plays by the rules, or "a perfect nation does so" which is nonsense.  Cheating is rampant, else the Sanctions would have worked and there would be no war . . . I think.  Maybe Wolfowitz and FEith and Cheney and a host of others, Bernard Lewis comes to mind, could have come up with another excuse if the Sanctions had worked and been ended under the conditions set by the Security Council.  (ya know, the 90 day time limit in 1991?)   

As I said before, if you are top-dog you can expect criticism. And if you, as a country, go to was and e.g. don't recognise the international war tribunal in the Hague, you can for sure expect some. Again, I understand the US' way of thinking but I can't agree on that. On a further note, this kind of behaviour does not make one popular, and I think europe and the US can use eachother as allies.

Or did you read my entire post?  Could it be you assume that "Occhi is posting, he must be slamming Europe."  Not well played, eppie.  :(

Yes that is what I thought...I'm sorry.

EDIT:  How did you interpret this passage of mine?  Curious.

In the process of cleaning up Europe's centuries of garbage, and in trying to play at the game as the rules keep changing, America has gotten its hands filthy. America has been heavy handed in Latin and South America since T Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson opened the policy door to embryonic imperial ambitions. He and I would agree on that were we to share a pint.  I wonder if the Chinese will get as dirty, in 50 or 100 years, cleaning up our geopolitical garbage.  Since they don't waste as much energy in hand wringing, maybe they'll just clean off their hands and get on with it, and hence do it more cost effectively. 
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I don't really get it?. Before I ask if you consider the US' actions in southern america a kind of european garbage cleaning, maybe I should just ask you to explain it again.