12-14-2005, 08:35 AM
kandrathe,Dec 13 2005, 07:54 PM Wrote:I'll ignore the bulk of your post which was pure troll bait...
No. There was no lie, there was a communication of the worst case scenario. There was a National Security Assessment with some poor intelligence work supporting the suspicions that Iraq was hiding a WMD program. That poor intelligence and wrong conclusion was shared by the US, Britain, Isreal, Germany, France, and many others.
Please Kandrathe, do you believe this yourself. Example; de so-called mobile biologicalwarfare lab-issue. They just lied.
If you would be so kind to read some pre-war posts on the lounge on the subject.
Half of the people then already knew this was the biggest nonsense. And although I don't respect them very much, the people that took the decission and did the intelligence work are not stupid.
kandrathe,Dec 13 2005, 07:54 PM Wrote:Let's paint a different outcome of history for the "What Ifs"; First assume the Iraq war did not happen and consequently sanctions were lifted (or just ignored), and in the closed society of Iraq, Saddam was now free to rebuild his arsenal. What outcome do you foresee for the Kurds? How long do you think if would be before there would be another war, this time started by Saddam? This time, rather than fighting the war on our terms, in Iraq, it would be in defense of Saudi Arabia, or Jordan. Or perhaps, having survived politically against the West he would have forged a new coalition of at least Yeman, Syria, and covertly possibly others. Explore the possible outcomes from what you know of Saddam, what good could have come from a scenario leaving Saddam in power with the UN failing to enforce sanctions?
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Please again! This is not reasoning. I know and agree that Saddam was a terrible dictator......so why was that excuse not used to attack Iraq? Why did they have to come with the lies about terrorism, WMDs and sanctions? If Bush just said, "i'm going to kick out all dictators he would have my support...and also that of many others.
We are not discussing the outcome and results of the war, we are talking about lying to the people. If before the war you would believe in what Bush said I would already blink my eyes....if you now say it is just miscommunication......