Paladins and 1.9

[Rinnhart]

And heal and dispel.  What do I do in a raid?  Buff and heal.  Hmm.

I worded that wrong, but you've always seemed to underestimate how long it takes and how repetitive it is for paladins with no addon help to buff and keep a raid force buffed, so I'm not sure why I bother to attempt the point, anymore.

I have heard that people have tanked all the 5 man and most of the 10 man stuff with pallys.  Will that no longer be the case?  I think that's sufficient.

I have tanked it all, 5 man. I would never do it again if a decent warrior was available. We're inefficient, time consuming tanks, and the "better" geared we get, the worse tanks we become.

The existing "ten man" content can be tanked with a trigger happy mage.

As you get to the 15-40 man stuff it can safely be assumed that you have some sort of class balance.  That's why Garr pretty much mandates a few locks and Domo some mages.  As a healer, I can solo live strath, but would think it funny to try the core with NO priests.

Why the hell shouldn't we be tanks? We're described as a tanking class, we have abilities obviously intended with tanking in mind, what fricken reason do we have to be pleased with being a distant third in line for tanking ability?

Tanking is a class role that blizzard has a bizarre issue with allowing more than a single class to be good at. Everything else has always been "we want multiple classes to excel at it in different ways".

Bzzt.  I always heal first, damage second.

You have the option of dealing damage- meaningful, controllable damage, at the press of a single button. And that, sir, is my #$%&ing point. What other class has to jump through so many fricken hoops just to kill someone? What reason is there for it to be this way?

So that no one looks at my comments and says "you want to be able to tank, heal, and do damage. No class does all three, without a trade-off, even druids."

- If they would pick tanking or damage and make paladins actually good at it, I'd shut up and fade happily into the woodwork. But they never have. They've always half-assed the job.

1) Very interesting.  I hadn't heard that.  Any kind of evidence out there?  SS?  Fraps?

I got the name wrong. It was "Gurubashi Catacombs" and it was mentioned in Blizzcon coverage. Google it.

2) It changes nothing. The caster itemization thing will be improving starting next patch. The fact that they aborted a BG does not mean that the 3 they have are not fun, don't need tactics, and can't use every classes abilities.
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You are, in a round about way, defending the Honor System. Why would you do that? WHY WOULD YOU EVER DO THAT?