Paladins and 1.9
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Ok, I need to know what the Paladins out there think of the 1.9 changes so far. Personally, I keep getting more and more upset about them when I look at them.

We have:
- A shielded nerf which prevents multiple paladins from stringing shields or a single paladin using Blessing of Protection anywhere close to the godshield
- A 2% damage reduction to Seal of Command
- 5dps less with Seal of Righteousness, Judgement is about half what it was
- RADICALLY lower threat generation using the new fury system
- All of the healing talents are significantly harder to get now
- The lowest number of talents of any class
- A judgement system that requires the pally be hitting the mob to maintain, meaning you're either keeping judgement up OR healing

I look at what was done for Warriors, Warlocks, Hunters, and Druids and I'm totally baffled. It's one thing not to be best of class if you can do multiple things well, but at this point we're looking at worst of class for any given category without even the talents necessary to become middle of the road. You still aren't going to do instances with a Pally as main healer end game. You used to be able to tank any 5-man instance with a pally end game and now that's going to be radically harder. DPS is even lower overall with SoC crits barely hitting four digits on the test server...

Is anyone happy about the 1.9 Pally changes? If so... why?

<updated!

Blizz has switched some talents around, significantly improving the Retribution tree.

- BoK is now 11 points in the Protection tree
- Repentance is now the 31 point talent in the Retribution tree
- Blessing of Sanctuary got moved to 21 points in Prot
- Holy shield got moved to 31 points in Prot

End Result:

Well, the Pallies have their controlled DPS increase now. They can use BoS to effectively judge a 400 or so point strike twice a minute now. The protection tree is looking a bit weak now, though. That said, everyone was thinking the changes were done - looks like we're still on the journey!

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Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-08-2005, 04:56 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Treesh - 12-08-2005, 05:03 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-08-2005, 06:15 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by kandrathe - 12-08-2005, 06:25 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-08-2005, 06:37 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-08-2005, 08:10 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Dozer - 12-08-2005, 09:16 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-08-2005, 09:27 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-08-2005, 09:47 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-08-2005, 10:33 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by MongoJerry - 12-08-2005, 10:50 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Dozer - 12-08-2005, 10:59 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Quark - 12-08-2005, 11:40 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Frag - 12-08-2005, 11:42 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Concillian - 12-09-2005, 12:08 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-09-2005, 12:28 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-09-2005, 01:02 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-09-2005, 02:24 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Quark - 12-09-2005, 03:16 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-09-2005, 04:12 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-09-2005, 04:25 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Quark - 12-09-2005, 06:14 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tuftears - 12-09-2005, 08:13 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by MongoJerry - 12-09-2005, 09:06 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-09-2005, 09:43 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-09-2005, 11:41 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Brista - 12-09-2005, 01:28 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Arnulf - 12-09-2005, 02:19 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-09-2005, 02:31 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Quark - 12-09-2005, 02:59 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Lissa - 12-09-2005, 03:19 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-09-2005, 04:07 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-09-2005, 04:11 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-09-2005, 05:45 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Concillian - 12-09-2005, 06:32 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-09-2005, 06:34 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Concillian - 12-09-2005, 06:39 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-09-2005, 07:48 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-09-2005, 07:55 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-09-2005, 08:04 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by MongoJerry - 12-09-2005, 09:42 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Frag - 12-09-2005, 09:53 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-09-2005, 09:53 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-09-2005, 10:42 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Brista - 12-10-2005, 12:56 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Brista - 12-10-2005, 12:58 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Drasca - 12-10-2005, 03:10 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-10-2005, 05:38 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-10-2005, 08:01 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-10-2005, 08:14 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-10-2005, 10:39 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Riot - 12-10-2005, 03:42 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-10-2005, 06:10 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-10-2005, 07:38 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-10-2005, 09:18 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-10-2005, 10:01 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-10-2005, 10:48 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-11-2005, 01:46 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-11-2005, 02:54 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-11-2005, 02:59 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Concillian - 12-11-2005, 06:38 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Riot - 12-11-2005, 05:34 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-11-2005, 06:31 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Frag - 12-11-2005, 06:33 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-12-2005, 07:05 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Drasca - 12-12-2005, 03:13 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-13-2005, 02:24 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by lfd - 12-13-2005, 04:17 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-13-2005, 10:10 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-13-2005, 10:16 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Xukuth - 12-13-2005, 11:32 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-13-2005, 11:41 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-13-2005, 11:58 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Xukuth - 12-14-2005, 12:17 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-14-2005, 12:26 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Xukuth - 12-14-2005, 12:30 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by lfd - 12-14-2005, 01:08 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tuftears - 12-14-2005, 01:18 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-14-2005, 07:11 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-14-2005, 07:49 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Quark - 12-14-2005, 08:01 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-14-2005, 08:28 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Lissa - 12-14-2005, 08:37 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Drasca - 12-14-2005, 09:16 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-14-2005, 09:27 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-15-2005, 12:26 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-15-2005, 11:22 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-16-2005, 04:01 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tuftears - 12-16-2005, 10:59 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-19-2005, 12:41 PM

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