12-07-2005, 01:14 AM
I have never afk'ed out of a battleground but with the no honor token unless your team holds for 10mins means that I'm going to start. Blizz is right, if its a totally losing group 10 vs 6 (and I'm on the side of the six as horde), I'll go off and farm a few kills while the alliance gets a free win. A few times we tried to "hold the flag" with pure defense hoping people would join. But when the score is 1-0 and player number 7 zones in to see a losing battle, they just afk. Ultimately you end up losing 3-0 even to an alliance PUG and you don't score much honor for your effort.
As an example of the imbalance, last night I did 6 WSG runs, 3 were 10 vs sub-8 (also known as free wins for the alliance) and 3 were fair 10 vs 10 fights were horde had a 2 wins 1 loss record. My over all PUG record for the night was 4 losses for 2 wins. Thus if I wish to increase my "Honor" and not waste my time at least trying to find a 1-1 pvp match in an alliance zerg of battlegrounds, I'm forced to afk since holding for 10 mins is impossible (even against a PUG) and I get nothing for my time looking for a 1-1 matchup. Most of the time I just get zerg'ed while hunting for a kill and then get corpse camped at the graveyard. Trust me, flag defense is really not tops on my list of things to do while rez'ing and running.
Thus to hold out for 10mins is just pointless. I may try to see if others are willing to hold out, but my guess is that I'm going to start afk'ing with the other losers or stop playing battlegrounds all together (except for Alterac Valley where at least the NPCs will fight with me and the graveyards cann't be corpse camped for free HKs).
As an example of the imbalance, last night I did 6 WSG runs, 3 were 10 vs sub-8 (also known as free wins for the alliance) and 3 were fair 10 vs 10 fights were horde had a 2 wins 1 loss record. My over all PUG record for the night was 4 losses for 2 wins. Thus if I wish to increase my "Honor" and not waste my time at least trying to find a 1-1 pvp match in an alliance zerg of battlegrounds, I'm forced to afk since holding for 10 mins is impossible (even against a PUG) and I get nothing for my time looking for a 1-1 matchup. Most of the time I just get zerg'ed while hunting for a kill and then get corpse camped at the graveyard. Trust me, flag defense is really not tops on my list of things to do while rez'ing and running.
Thus to hold out for 10mins is just pointless. I may try to see if others are willing to hold out, but my guess is that I'm going to start afk'ing with the other losers or stop playing battlegrounds all together (except for Alterac Valley where at least the NPCs will fight with me and the graveyards cann't be corpse camped for free HKs).
Terenas
Yuri - Mage/Arcane 85 Undead
Thirdrail - Shaman/Resto 85 Tauren
Vicstull - Rogue/Subtlety 85 Troll
Penten - Priest/Discipline 85 Blood Elf
Storage guild Bassomatic
Yuri - Mage/Arcane 85 Undead
Thirdrail - Shaman/Resto 85 Tauren
Vicstull - Rogue/Subtlety 85 Troll
Penten - Priest/Discipline 85 Blood Elf
Storage guild Bassomatic