Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees
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Rinnhart,Dec 5 2005, 02:43 AM Wrote:Running a build similar to my live 8/31/11, I noticed a drastic increase in efficiency over 1.8 while using a one hander and righteousness simply due to the staggering number of double procs off judgement of light or wisdom. Great, an already efficient PvE class is now even more so.

That was never a problem.

PvP, however, we can now actively dump most of our mana in spam fests that might do 2-3 thousand damage, if we get some high crits. It's pitiful. Yeah, a paladin who opens with a couple lucky command procs might actually have a chance of finishing you off, but we're still dependant upon crits and procs for MOST of our damage.
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As far as i'm concerned the issues with paladin PvP are not the effectiveness of our damage it's the way PvP in WoW is played. I think a good analogy would be to have the los angelas lakers and then tell them that they could only shoot with their feet. The rules of Battleground PvP essencially pidgeonholes us right out of 80% of what we can offer to our team, leaving us with standing back and trying to heal. The problem is that PvP is far too structured and organized on a design level. With this high of an organization of how pvp works even before you add players into the mix it's gauranteed that people that are going to be the most effective in that environment are the characters and classes that are fully focused on one single job.

As fun as a WSG or AB match is, in theory, i think the reality of these modes of PvP is that they cannot maintain the interest of the PvP-centric portion of the MMO population. The majority of people that are doing pvp now are doing it just to grind out faction or honor. sure there are some people that do it for the fun of the match, but most people that like the idea of a WSG or AB game will join the queue and see 1-2 hour waits and say EFF this. The solution is to create a more fluid evolutional PvP environment. Blizzard used to say that they were planning on implementing World PvP nodes much like those in an AB match that people could fight to control for some benifit to their side. this is the type of environment that will keep people PvPing and also the type that will foster emergant play styles. When you simplfy the "rules" it expands the routes in which one can use to be successful. In such an environment many more of the paladins natural abilities would become useful.
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Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Chesspiece_face - 11-23-2005, 08:23 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Chesspiece_face - 11-23-2005, 08:24 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Chesspiece_face - 11-23-2005, 08:25 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Kevin - 11-23-2005, 09:05 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Kevin - 11-23-2005, 09:21 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Kevin - 11-23-2005, 09:31 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by vor_lord - 11-23-2005, 09:49 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Kevin - 11-23-2005, 09:58 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Chesspiece_face - 11-23-2005, 10:02 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by vor_lord - 11-23-2005, 10:56 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by savaughn - 11-24-2005, 07:01 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Rinnhart - 11-24-2005, 07:11 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by savaughn - 11-24-2005, 07:53 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Rinnhart - 11-24-2005, 09:08 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Kevin - 11-24-2005, 06:25 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Legedi - 11-25-2005, 02:30 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Kevin - 11-25-2005, 06:03 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Drasca - 11-25-2005, 01:06 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Kevin - 11-25-2005, 02:26 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Rinnhart - 11-26-2005, 06:09 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Chesspiece_face - 11-26-2005, 08:13 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by GrayFox - 11-26-2005, 11:59 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Rinnhart - 12-03-2005, 06:18 PM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Xukuth - 12-05-2005, 03:52 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Chesspiece_face - 12-05-2005, 07:33 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Rinnhart - 12-05-2005, 07:43 AM
Paladin 1.9 Talant Trees - by Chesspiece_face - 12-05-2005, 08:06 AM

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