Pally Changes
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JustAGuy,Oct 31 2005, 12:51 AM Wrote:With respect to usefulness, a Shaman is more useful to a group and/or raid than Paladin, in my opinion, because totem combinations offer more diversity independent of trinkets. This means that the Horde have an advantage in any group -- shouldn't the Paladin be at least as useful in a group as the Shaman (seeing as the Shaman is the "cousin" of the Paladin)? I don't expect the Paladin to match the Shaman's absurb DPS capability (frequent 1200 crits with Earth Shock -- oh my!), but they should have some more varied use than just "heal... cleanse...".
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5 man, it's easier for a shaman to be more useful, but that doesn't make pallies less useful. In raids, pallies are actually more useful than shaman simply because they can throw blessings on anyone in a raid whereas the totems only apply to those in your party, not the entire raid. If you think pallies don't have more varied use than just heal, cleanse, you've either not played one very high or else never seen good paladins in action. Pallies need a little tweaking, but they don't need a huge overhaul. Increase the length of the blessings and possibly cut down on the cooldown of judgements a little and that will go a long way into "fixing" the pally.

And yes, pallies can actually do DPS. They aren't going to be top dogs, but it's not total crap. I do admit that because of the frequency of needing to apply blessings and the lack of ranged attacks (except for the recently implemented band-aid and against undead), I don't enjoy playing my paladin as much as the other classes, but they are not even close to as useless or gimped as you are trying to make them sound. Play the pallies more or just watch the good pallies in action in places like Molten Core or even just UBRS, Strat or scholo. They are a welcome addition to the group, especially if you're low on warriors. Yeah, that's right. Pallies can actually tank if need be! *gasp*
Intolerant monkey.
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Pally Changes - by Quark - 10-31-2005, 12:15 AM
Pally Changes - by Chesspiece_face - 10-31-2005, 12:23 AM
Pally Changes - by Kevin - 10-31-2005, 12:26 AM
Pally Changes - by Boutros - 10-31-2005, 02:32 AM
Pally Changes - by JustAGuy - 10-31-2005, 05:51 AM
Pally Changes - by Darian - 10-31-2005, 06:52 AM
Pally Changes - by Mirajj - 10-31-2005, 07:11 AM
Pally Changes - by MissileToad - 10-31-2005, 08:05 AM
Pally Changes - by Artega - 10-31-2005, 02:00 PM
Pally Changes - by Treesh - 10-31-2005, 02:50 PM
Pally Changes - by Chesspiece_face - 10-31-2005, 06:14 PM
Pally Changes - by oldmandennis - 10-31-2005, 06:36 PM
Pally Changes - by Lissa - 10-31-2005, 06:37 PM
Pally Changes - by JustAGuy - 10-31-2005, 06:41 PM
Pally Changes - by Kevin - 10-31-2005, 07:53 PM
Pally Changes - by Icebird - 10-31-2005, 08:57 PM
Pally Changes - by MissileToad - 10-31-2005, 11:04 PM
Pally Changes - by Tuftears - 11-01-2005, 12:10 AM
Pally Changes - by Lissa - 11-01-2005, 12:42 AM
Pally Changes - by Roland - 11-01-2005, 02:15 AM
Pally Changes - by Rinnhart - 11-01-2005, 02:55 AM
Pally Changes - by Rinnhart - 11-01-2005, 03:08 AM
Pally Changes - by MissileToad - 11-01-2005, 04:29 AM
Pally Changes - by MongoJerry - 11-01-2005, 04:51 AM
Pally Changes - by Rinnhart - 11-01-2005, 07:05 AM
Pally Changes - by Drasca - 11-01-2005, 09:49 AM
Pally Changes - by Rinnhart - 11-01-2005, 10:25 AM
Pally Changes - by Rinnhart - 11-01-2005, 10:46 AM
Pally Changes - by MongoJerry - 11-01-2005, 11:22 AM
Pally Changes - by Quark - 11-01-2005, 12:32 PM
Pally Changes - by Skandranon - 11-01-2005, 12:41 PM
Pally Changes - by Tal - 11-01-2005, 02:00 PM
Pally Changes - by NotSoDarklord - 11-01-2005, 02:28 PM
Pally Changes - by Tal - 11-01-2005, 02:57 PM
Pally Changes - by Kevin - 11-01-2005, 03:19 PM
Pally Changes - by NotSoDarklord - 11-01-2005, 03:53 PM
Pally Changes - by NotSoDarklord - 11-01-2005, 03:56 PM
Pally Changes - by NotSoDarklord - 11-01-2005, 04:07 PM
Pally Changes - by savaughn - 11-01-2005, 04:16 PM
Pally Changes - by NotSoDarklord - 11-01-2005, 04:21 PM
Pally Changes - by vor_lord - 11-01-2005, 06:06 PM
Pally Changes - by MongoJerry - 11-01-2005, 08:13 PM
Pally Changes - by MongoJerry - 11-01-2005, 09:36 PM
Pally Changes - by MongoJerry - 11-01-2005, 09:56 PM
Pally Changes - by Roland - 11-01-2005, 10:50 PM
Pally Changes - by vor_lord - 11-01-2005, 10:51 PM
Pally Changes - by vor_lord - 11-01-2005, 10:54 PM
Pally Changes - by Quark - 11-01-2005, 11:06 PM
Pally Changes - by Boutros - 11-01-2005, 11:31 PM
Pally Changes - by savaughn - 11-01-2005, 11:39 PM
Pally Changes - by Quark - 11-02-2005, 12:14 AM
Pally Changes - by oldmandennis - 11-02-2005, 12:45 AM
Pally Changes - by savaughn - 11-02-2005, 08:55 AM
Pally Changes - by Arnulf - 11-02-2005, 09:28 AM
Pally Changes - by JustAGuy - 11-03-2005, 12:25 AM
Pally Changes - by Rinnhart - 11-03-2005, 02:50 AM
Pally Changes - by Rinnhart - 11-03-2005, 02:53 AM
Pally Changes - by Rinnhart - 11-03-2005, 02:59 AM
Pally Changes - by Rinnhart - 11-03-2005, 03:38 AM
Pally Changes - by vor_lord - 11-03-2005, 04:48 AM
Pally Changes - by vor_lord - 11-03-2005, 05:26 AM
Pally Changes - by oldmandennis - 11-03-2005, 09:04 AM
Pally Changes - by Rinnhart - 11-03-2005, 09:21 AM
Pally Changes - by Treesh - 11-03-2005, 02:18 PM
Pally Changes - by Treesh - 11-03-2005, 02:23 PM
Pally Changes - by hiryuu1115 - 11-03-2005, 02:32 PM
Pally Changes - by Drasca - 11-03-2005, 05:22 PM
Pally Changes - by Kevin - 11-03-2005, 05:49 PM
Pally Changes - by Skandranon - 11-03-2005, 06:30 PM
Pally Changes - by Skandranon - 11-03-2005, 06:42 PM
Pally Changes - by Drasca - 11-03-2005, 07:09 PM
Pally Changes - by Kevin - 11-03-2005, 07:34 PM
Pally Changes - by JustAGuy - 11-03-2005, 07:38 PM
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