Terenas - Friday, Oct. 28th

[Kevin]

I meant that Meowry is better at holding aggro, and offers DPS, so if the healer is forced to choose, choose the offtank that also has DPS.  I wasn't actually getting into the specifics of one stat on one pet vs. the other, just that if I had to pick one to keep alive, I'd take the one that does more damage than a sneeze.

I think perhaps I consider them more of an problem pull is because when I went through ST my first time with Durambar, we didn't have a mage, and only had 1 offtanked on a pet.  I had to tank 3 of those elites at once, and when your armor gets dropped by 75%, the punishment was almost as bad as having Conc beat on me, and so I have cautious approach to these pulls.  Think rogue main tank...  With Durambar and Conc (pretending to be a good guy at the time  :ph34r:  ) together, it was a breeze.  The currently expected group tonight shouldn't have nearly as much trouble as a cardboard wearing Durambar did.
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When we 4 manned ST with 2 mages a warrior and priest those 4 dragons were the hardest but we actually AoE'd them after we tried focus firing them down. Gnolack would get and hold aggro on the 4 mobs while the mages smashed them all down. It was a little rough as I built aggro on all four, but getting that much damage in did give me the rage to just rotate sunders/revenges around them. Treesh would be out of mana and the end and I would generally lose one mob sometimes two (though taunt would help a bit) that would hit a mage but shielding usually worked. We can't do that with this group since we don't have a warrior but we might still be able to AoE them with 3 of them being tanked. I can start a volley and target switch with Meowry if we want to try that.

One thing we are forgetting is double freeze traps. Of course to do that Meowry can't be tanking early. But I can freeze a single target for 20 seconds at least. It's too bad I don't have the old spirit bond because then I could tank as well, 30 health every .8 seconds or so is a fair bit of healing. But I don't have that. But it was nice for when the trap broke and the mob went for me.

I do agree that Meowry won't be holding 4 elites without really killing my DPS because I would have to heal all the time. Sunken Temple is getting up to where it gets hard for a pet to tank well without a lot of CC. But I just don't want to waste the freeze trap. 20 seconds of a mob out of commision is a good thing, and if I'm quick enough to trap, pull, freeze mob, FD trap send Meowry in we can get more time. I know that traps helped a lot with Meowry tanking in Zul'Farrak. Though we might be able to have someone else pull into the first trap so my FD doesn't drop the aggro I had from the pull. Give us a bit more time and a 2nd trap.

Eranikus is going to be rough, but then again he is just out of whack for that instance anyway much more difficult than anything else in there. We'll figure something out.