Attendance & Burnout
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Somehow I knew I should have talked with Darian and Tuftears before I took this weekend off to go camping. But during the night it kept nagging me so I fired up the laptop and the wireless connection to check in on things.

I haven't had any coffee yet as the coffee maker is so antiquated that its still on brewing a half an hour later and has 3/4 of a pot left to brew. Please be patient with me if I ramble a bit.

First off it would be prudent if everyone took a deep breath and thought before replying. Things are getting heated and personal that don't need to be.

Secondly it appears to me that you logged in yesterday with a chip on your shoulder about the avarice alliance and the Basin in particular. I'm not certain what set your teeth on edge abot us yesterday since you haven't raided with us in a while but it was completely uncalled for.

If I recall correctly you levelled the following accusations at the Basin in general:

1. That there were tanks that showed up, won loot, and haven't been back since. I will agree with this to a degree but will also point out that there are Lurkers who raid only casually as there are with Carpe Aurum folks. The new point system will help alleviate this.

2. That the Basin did not possess the discipline to raid as they talk on TS, don't always follow orders, etc. Again this charge can be levelled at the Lurkers and CA as well. We're working on that as well by assigning class leaders to assist with that. I have developed macros that order TS to be cleared so that the raid leaders can speak. It won't be the perfect solution but it will help until folks learn Molten Core better.

You then went on to say that you preferred raiding with Critical Mass because they were professional, knew how to raid, and did not have any drama queens. Well they should be professional and know how to raid. They've a hardcore raiding guild filled with quality folks who have their eyes on the same prize. The Avarice Alliance is a herd of cats who happen to raid occassionally in Molten Core and other places. As to drama queens, well, to be honest you have a flair for the dramatic yourself. ;)

As I stated in /ga yesterday we could have kept the discussion even headed and constructive. Since then things have been blown out of proportion. If folks think before they type and remember that we're friends here it could still be a constructive discussion.

Personally I'm happy for you that you've found what you're looking for with CM. I hate that it means Telsak can't raid with us anymore but I do wish you the best with CM.

Note to all - lets keep this civil or I'll be forced to lock this down. *points to Bolty* Especially you. ;) :w00t: :lol:
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Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 05:06 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Darian - 09-26-2005, 06:05 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 09-26-2005, 06:15 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Lissa - 09-26-2005, 06:40 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Zippyy - 09-26-2005, 06:47 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Lissa - 09-26-2005, 06:49 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Quark - 09-26-2005, 07:10 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 07:14 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Zippyy - 09-26-2005, 07:19 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tuftears - 09-26-2005, 07:22 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-26-2005, 07:29 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 09-26-2005, 07:34 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 07:46 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by RTM - 09-26-2005, 07:55 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 08:01 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-26-2005, 08:07 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 09-26-2005, 08:14 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 09-26-2005, 08:17 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Treesh - 09-26-2005, 08:18 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-26-2005, 08:21 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tuftears - 09-26-2005, 08:23 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Kevin - 09-26-2005, 08:28 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 08:39 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Ruvanal - 09-26-2005, 08:44 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-26-2005, 08:46 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 08:59 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Ruvanal - 09-26-2005, 09:13 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-26-2005, 09:17 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Kevin - 09-26-2005, 09:18 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Kevin - 09-26-2005, 09:34 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Ruvanal - 09-26-2005, 09:56 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by LochnarITB - 09-26-2005, 10:53 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Lissa - 09-26-2005, 11:36 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Darian - 09-27-2005, 12:05 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Mirajj - 09-27-2005, 03:38 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Taakal - 09-27-2005, 04:33 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by martini - 09-27-2005, 02:57 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by martini - 09-27-2005, 03:01 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Bolty - 09-27-2005, 09:32 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Sabra - 09-27-2005, 10:45 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by hiryuu1115 - 09-28-2005, 01:39 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Quark - 09-28-2005, 01:53 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Treesh - 09-28-2005, 03:40 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Mirajj - 09-28-2005, 06:55 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by WildFire - 09-28-2005, 11:36 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by q4m - 09-28-2005, 12:38 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by q4m - 09-28-2005, 01:10 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by castille - 09-28-2005, 03:47 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-28-2005, 03:49 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by castille - 09-28-2005, 04:05 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Kevin - 09-28-2005, 04:42 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by mjdoom - 09-28-2005, 04:55 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 09-28-2005, 10:39 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by TheDragoon - 09-29-2005, 07:16 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Kevin - 09-29-2005, 07:43 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tuftears - 09-29-2005, 07:47 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by martini - 09-29-2005, 08:17 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by TheDragoon - 09-29-2005, 08:47 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Mirajj - 09-29-2005, 09:00 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-29-2005, 09:06 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by hiryuu1115 - 09-29-2005, 11:47 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by WildFire - 09-30-2005, 03:32 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Darian - 09-30-2005, 03:53 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 09-30-2005, 08:59 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by martini - 09-30-2005, 03:05 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 09-30-2005, 04:31 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by martini - 09-30-2005, 05:07 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 09-30-2005, 05:19 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tuftears - 09-30-2005, 06:38 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Bolty - 09-30-2005, 07:51 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Quark - 09-30-2005, 09:36 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Lissa - 09-30-2005, 09:47 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Bolty - 09-30-2005, 10:06 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 10-01-2005, 02:16 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Lissa - 10-01-2005, 02:40 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Darian - 10-01-2005, 03:23 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Olon97 - 10-01-2005, 03:50 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 10-01-2005, 04:48 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Quark - 10-01-2005, 11:10 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Quark - 10-01-2005, 11:23 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 10-01-2005, 11:44 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 10-01-2005, 12:08 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tuftears - 10-01-2005, 10:05 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by TheDragoon - 10-02-2005, 12:02 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Zippyy - 10-02-2005, 03:37 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by anadrol - 10-03-2005, 07:12 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by anadrol - 10-03-2005, 07:24 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by anadrol - 10-03-2005, 07:35 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Skandranon - 10-04-2005, 07:59 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Darian - 10-04-2005, 12:39 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Kevin - 10-04-2005, 02:58 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Skandranon - 10-04-2005, 03:27 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by anadrol - 10-04-2005, 04:34 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by anadrol - 10-04-2005, 04:45 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by LochnarITB - 10-05-2005, 11:44 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by anadrol - 10-06-2005, 04:04 PM

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