Attendance & Burnout
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Quark,Sep 30 2005, 10:36 PM Wrote:One simple suggestion - don't mention having an opinion if you're not willing to back it up.  If you believe something, say why.  If others don't believe the same, oh my god, they have a difference of opinion!.

Your statement was purely divisive with no actual content.  Either back it up and present a problem we can work on fixing, or don't mention it at all.  I do not want this alliance to turn bitter because of snide comments.
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Fine. I will explain my initial statement.
<The Basin> has (with a few exceptions) poor raid discipline. It takes alot of practice.
Getting to 60 is in no way an indicator of being "ready" for highend raids.
This was the statement I didnt want to make after seeing martinis post but there it is.
To raid things like MC and up, you need raid participants that are in posession of the following attributes:

Ability to listen and OBEY raid instructions.
Ability to not give out orders when they are not a raid leader/assistant.
Ability to not keep interrupting leaders/assistants on TS.
Ability to want to LEARN & IMPROVE their gameplay.

If a "raider" can't check each and everyone of these attributes they have no business in MC/BWL/ZG/AQ. That's the cold hard truth right there.

Bitter? You bet. I am at a point right now where I get sick to my stomach when I think of the prospect of doing an avarice mc run. That's how bad it is.

And quite frankly? Those who are rumbling and moaning that I should get off my high horse and stop running with CM so I can raid mondays as well with avarice? Be quiet.
You know, YOU try on for a change to go on raids at 01:00 - 06:00 AM and experience the kind of stress and see if YOU feel very encouraged to keep doing that for nothing.

Yes, the way things are for me is that the ONLY time I can raid is during my NIGHT. Not evening. Night. So don't talk to me about loyalty and comittment. Don't even start.

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Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 05:06 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Darian - 09-26-2005, 06:05 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 09-26-2005, 06:15 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Lissa - 09-26-2005, 06:40 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Zippyy - 09-26-2005, 06:47 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Lissa - 09-26-2005, 06:49 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Quark - 09-26-2005, 07:10 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 07:14 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Zippyy - 09-26-2005, 07:19 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tuftears - 09-26-2005, 07:22 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-26-2005, 07:29 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 09-26-2005, 07:34 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 07:46 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by RTM - 09-26-2005, 07:55 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 08:01 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-26-2005, 08:07 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 09-26-2005, 08:14 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 09-26-2005, 08:17 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Treesh - 09-26-2005, 08:18 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-26-2005, 08:21 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tuftears - 09-26-2005, 08:23 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Kevin - 09-26-2005, 08:28 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 08:39 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Ruvanal - 09-26-2005, 08:44 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-26-2005, 08:46 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by kandrathe - 09-26-2005, 08:59 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Ruvanal - 09-26-2005, 09:13 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-26-2005, 09:17 PM
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Attendance & Burnout - by Darian - 09-27-2005, 12:05 AM
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Attendance & Burnout - by martini - 09-27-2005, 02:57 PM
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Attendance & Burnout - by hiryuu1115 - 09-28-2005, 01:39 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Quark - 09-28-2005, 01:53 AM
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Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 09-28-2005, 10:39 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by TheDragoon - 09-29-2005, 07:16 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Kevin - 09-29-2005, 07:43 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tuftears - 09-29-2005, 07:47 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by martini - 09-29-2005, 08:17 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by TheDragoon - 09-29-2005, 08:47 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Mirajj - 09-29-2005, 09:00 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Pesmerga - 09-29-2005, 09:06 PM
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Attendance & Burnout - by WildFire - 09-30-2005, 03:32 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Darian - 09-30-2005, 03:53 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 09-30-2005, 08:59 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by martini - 09-30-2005, 03:05 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 09-30-2005, 04:31 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by martini - 09-30-2005, 05:07 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 09-30-2005, 05:19 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tuftears - 09-30-2005, 06:38 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Bolty - 09-30-2005, 07:51 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Quark - 09-30-2005, 09:36 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Lissa - 09-30-2005, 09:47 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Bolty - 09-30-2005, 10:06 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 10-01-2005, 02:16 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Lissa - 10-01-2005, 02:40 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Darian - 10-01-2005, 03:23 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Olon97 - 10-01-2005, 03:50 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 10-01-2005, 04:48 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Quark - 10-01-2005, 11:10 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Quark - 10-01-2005, 11:23 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Alrin - 10-01-2005, 11:44 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tal - 10-01-2005, 12:08 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by Tuftears - 10-01-2005, 10:05 PM
Attendance & Burnout - by TheDragoon - 10-02-2005, 12:02 AM
Attendance & Burnout - by Zippyy - 10-02-2005, 03:37 AM
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