09-26-2005, 03:38 AM
I'm confused.
Look at the ivory wands -- generic green ilvl 51/req level 46 wands, come in four basic flavors:
+17 to x spell damage (including +17 holy wrath)
+26 healing spells
+6 - 7 to a single stat
+4 - 5 each to two stats
this would make me think that +spelldamage is 0.35-0.41 SEB (including holy)
and +healing is 0.23-0.27 SEB, nowhere near the 0.69 +spelldamage/0.91 +holydamage and 0.43 +healing SEB values quoted above.
Is the statmod for the wand slot known? i don't see it in the blizzard post.
***
My long suffering shadowpriest recently rode out to Azshara to deliver the Ichor of Undeath, resulting in being offered the quest to kill the new sunken temple boss and take my choice of three rewards. One of them in particular seems pointless:
Woestave (blue)
Wand
68 - 127 Shadow Damage, Speed 1.90
(51.3 DPS)
+3 Stamina
Equip: Increases damage done by Shadow spells and effects by up to 11.
"Woe to those who oppose."
Thott tells me this is an ilvl 52 item, the same as the quest level.
Compare to my current wand:
Ivory wand of Shadow Wrath (green)
Wand
41 - 77 Arcane Damage, Speed 1.40
(42.1 DPS)
+17 Shadow Spell Damage
Req. Level 46
Thott says ilvl 51 (req level +5)
Why is woestave so much worse? Back of the envelope it doesn't seem like +3 stamina should cause -6 shadowdamage, particularly with the quality and ilvl advantage.
But there is an even better headscratcher (via thott rather than personal experience):
Pyric Caduceus (blue)
Wand
66 - 123 Fire Damage, Speed 1.80
(52.5 DPS)
Req. Level 48
Equip: Increases damage done by Fire spells and effects by up to 13.
ilvl 53
vs
Ivory Wand of Fiery Wrath (green)
Wand
41 - 77 Arcane Damage, Speed 1.40
(42.1 DPS)
+17 Fire Spell Damage
Req. Level 46
ilvl 51
+2 ilvl, green->blue, no other stats in the way, and it loses 4 fire spell damage.
Not even a rhyming quote, on the off chance that costs points.
I see the following possibilities to explain this:
1. Thottbot is wrong, those items don't drop or have different stats.
2. "Equip: Increases damage done by X spells and effects by up to Y." is not the same as "+Y X Spell Damage", either in effect or point cost.
3. Blue wands, across the board, have a hidden +wand damage stat (explaining their higher DPS), which costs points--more points, in fact, than they get for going blue. This may be a Blizzard design decision to deter using wands as an extra stat slot.
4. itemization works nothing like these posts describe, at least for wands.
5. I am terribly confused.
Anyone know which is the case?
--frink
Look at the ivory wands -- generic green ilvl 51/req level 46 wands, come in four basic flavors:
+17 to x spell damage (including +17 holy wrath)
+26 healing spells
+6 - 7 to a single stat
+4 - 5 each to two stats
this would make me think that +spelldamage is 0.35-0.41 SEB (including holy)
and +healing is 0.23-0.27 SEB, nowhere near the 0.69 +spelldamage/0.91 +holydamage and 0.43 +healing SEB values quoted above.
Is the statmod for the wand slot known? i don't see it in the blizzard post.
***
My long suffering shadowpriest recently rode out to Azshara to deliver the Ichor of Undeath, resulting in being offered the quest to kill the new sunken temple boss and take my choice of three rewards. One of them in particular seems pointless:
Woestave (blue)
Wand
68 - 127 Shadow Damage, Speed 1.90
(51.3 DPS)
+3 Stamina
Equip: Increases damage done by Shadow spells and effects by up to 11.
"Woe to those who oppose."
Thott tells me this is an ilvl 52 item, the same as the quest level.
Compare to my current wand:
Ivory wand of Shadow Wrath (green)
Wand
41 - 77 Arcane Damage, Speed 1.40
(42.1 DPS)
+17 Shadow Spell Damage
Req. Level 46
Thott says ilvl 51 (req level +5)
Why is woestave so much worse? Back of the envelope it doesn't seem like +3 stamina should cause -6 shadowdamage, particularly with the quality and ilvl advantage.
But there is an even better headscratcher (via thott rather than personal experience):
Pyric Caduceus (blue)
Wand
66 - 123 Fire Damage, Speed 1.80
(52.5 DPS)
Req. Level 48
Equip: Increases damage done by Fire spells and effects by up to 13.
ilvl 53
vs
Ivory Wand of Fiery Wrath (green)
Wand
41 - 77 Arcane Damage, Speed 1.40
(42.1 DPS)
+17 Fire Spell Damage
Req. Level 46
ilvl 51
+2 ilvl, green->blue, no other stats in the way, and it loses 4 fire spell damage.
Not even a rhyming quote, on the off chance that costs points.
I see the following possibilities to explain this:
1. Thottbot is wrong, those items don't drop or have different stats.
2. "Equip: Increases damage done by X spells and effects by up to Y." is not the same as "+Y X Spell Damage", either in effect or point cost.
3. Blue wands, across the board, have a hidden +wand damage stat (explaining their higher DPS), which costs points--more points, in fact, than they get for going blue. This may be a Blizzard design decision to deter using wands as an extra stat slot.
4. itemization works nothing like these posts describe, at least for wands.
5. I am terribly confused.
Anyone know which is the case?
--frink