08-31-2005, 03:09 PM
I agree with the points system, not sure if blind bids are necessary, but its an interesting step to try to lower overall points by making people bid to high to win things. I still dont understand the inflation or limiting thing and how thats implemented.
The problem that you will hear as far as an argument is that people who always come only on saturday will never get loot when others have points, but i dont think thats true.
I like the idea that each person has control if they win an item, perhaps blind bidding makes it more fun not sure. Having control be on the person if they show up and bid will help allevite some of the stress on the raid leaders.
I also dont agree with a boss kill itself equaling all of the points, perhaps being on time and staying until the end of the raid can be a part of points to reward those that dont just get summoned in right before luci, etc. And an argument could be made that those that only join us once a week should have 1/3 the points because they just dont help the raid take down as many bosses.
If the goal is loot itself than should each person get points when we also see random bracer or belt drops as well?
Anyway I think if we can work out a points system thats the thing i will endorse...not because i dont trust a group of people deciding, hell I would probably do fine being one of our tanks that is needed....but I just like putting responsibility in the hands of each member to chose how much they want a specific item. Random is fine as well, but i get increasingly more frustrated with OH, hey guys i'm new guy001 who has not been raiding the last few months while you guys progressed, gee thanks for phat_lewt001, while 30 solid people have been building this alliance over the last 2-3 months and dont get #$%&. At least with a points system these folks can be rewarded. And you know what? those new people can join us and put in the work and get points and decide for themselves if they want to bid on something, they may win you never know.
Anyway thanks, hope this helps our discussion a bit.
The problem that you will hear as far as an argument is that people who always come only on saturday will never get loot when others have points, but i dont think thats true.
I like the idea that each person has control if they win an item, perhaps blind bidding makes it more fun not sure. Having control be on the person if they show up and bid will help allevite some of the stress on the raid leaders.
I also dont agree with a boss kill itself equaling all of the points, perhaps being on time and staying until the end of the raid can be a part of points to reward those that dont just get summoned in right before luci, etc. And an argument could be made that those that only join us once a week should have 1/3 the points because they just dont help the raid take down as many bosses.
If the goal is loot itself than should each person get points when we also see random bracer or belt drops as well?
Anyway I think if we can work out a points system thats the thing i will endorse...not because i dont trust a group of people deciding, hell I would probably do fine being one of our tanks that is needed....but I just like putting responsibility in the hands of each member to chose how much they want a specific item. Random is fine as well, but i get increasingly more frustrated with OH, hey guys i'm new guy001 who has not been raiding the last few months while you guys progressed, gee thanks for phat_lewt001, while 30 solid people have been building this alliance over the last 2-3 months and dont get #$%&. At least with a points system these folks can be rewarded. And you know what? those new people can join us and put in the work and get points and decide for themselves if they want to bid on something, they may win you never know.
Anyway thanks, hope this helps our discussion a bit.