06-27-2005, 10:15 AM
MongoJerry,Jun 26 2005, 04:44 PM Wrote:Peace. I'll do what I can. The problem is that Divine Shield (I had to doublecheck the official name on Thotbott) is to me one of the most broken and unbalanced skills in the game. There's no way for an opponent to counter it and there's little downside to casting it (yes, I know, -50% attack speed).
Lasts twelve seconds, has a cool of 5 minutes. Of course, those are details and extremely minor.
Quote:A paladin can even cast it while silenced or charmed, for goodness sakes. The nearest thing to it is a mage's Ice Block, but at least there the mage can't move or do any skills of his or her own.
That's because mages are actually dangerous and twelve seconds is long enough for them to actually do something besides maybe heal or run away.
Quote:I hate it when a paladin charges toward a group of 40+ opposing players, Divine Shields, does his or her weak aoe attack, and runs back unscathed. Yes, that's a useless tactic (except if all you want to do is rack up "honorable kills"), but the fact that a person can do it at all shows that something is very wrong.
You hate it?
There are so many better things to hate or be annoyed at than an, as you said, useless tactic. I say so what? I'm more worried about being picked off by a hunter or a rogue than whether or not some moron is gonna run out, moon us, and run away.
Quote: I mean, if DS would just let 10% of damage in, then that would be at least be something. Or if spell costs were doubled or healing effects were halved while the shield were up, that'd be cool.
The more you rant on about Divine Shield the more it has the trappings of class envy. Too many daggers in the lumbar, Jerry? Stun locked a couple times too many?
All a paladin can do while shielded is heal. We can't kill anyone. Hell, that 50% attack speed increase means we can barely interrupt bandaging if someone's stupid enough to do it in reach.
Quote:But right now, all DS does is protect... people who may or may not be skilled. (I'm trying!)
Don't worry, Jerry, we narcissists need to stick together. You act superior and experienced and I'll mock you and stew with imagined insight as to why you're ignoring everyone else's Good Points.
I'm getting my fix. Are you?
Quote:Oh, boy. While doing laundry today, I finally formulated why it was that I prefered shamans over paladins in 5-man parties. It's a nice bit of analysis, but I'm afraid it might be taken wrongly in the current discussion. And anyway, I said that I would stop talking about paladins, and I'm already crossing that line. So, I'll hold off on that at least for a couple days.
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#$%& or get off the pot, as my dad was fond of quoting. All pulling this "I know but I'll tell you later" bit is doing is pissing us off more. Personally, I'll just assume it was an intentional slight at the rest of us and resent you more.
You're correct, however, in saying that paladins are the weakest of the four healing classes. Our "ability" to tank is often given as a reason for our general lack of useful, offensive utility. And, yes, we can take hits better than shamans, priests, or druids, but not so well as to really replace warriors. And who needs a second tank when you have a good warrior?
You did, however, choose a hell of a way to continue that discussion. Might as well have started an abortion debate by quoting the Bible and then calling everyone who disagreed "baby murderers."
Also:
Quote:I've chosen not to respond, because it's obviously not constructive. I have stated my opinions about paladins in general, and it's taken as referring to certain paladins in particular with whom I've never played. I'm asked why I have those opinions, and I explain why I have them, and those explainations are considered flamebaiting. My opinions are real and have not changed, but it's very clear that expressing those opinions is not constructive to the community, so I will go ahead and sign off on the discussion of paladins. My main regret is that this thread which started off talking about CTF strategies got hijacked so far.
I call bull#$%&. You're loving the rise, you attention-whore, just as you'll love the rise when you reveal your wisdom regarding the superiority of shamans.
"AND THEN THE PALADIN TOOK MY EYES!"
Forever oppressed by the GOLs.
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Forever oppressed by the GOLs.
Grom Hellscream: [Orcish] kek