Warlock's talents building
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Lissa,Jun 10 2005, 02:06 PM Wrote:My comment still stands, in small samples, Devestation and Ruin MAKE a difference.
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Small samples means you depend on small unlikely chances to win a battle. That's bull. Crits are wonderful when they happen, but only a desperate player is going to depend on them. In small samples, you'd also run out of mana or life with a Ruin investment. That's less overall damage. I don't need just one or two crits. I want them all dead. Ruin doesn't provide the staying power compared to dark pact or soul link.

You don't see beyond the single, double, triple, crit picture. Too bad.

Quote:When you start calculating in the effects of Ruin, Shadow Mastery, and potential Improved Shadowbolt if you're spamming them, the increases you see in damage with the same build as someone that doesn't go with a SM/Ruin build begin to be seen. SM/Ruin allows you to lay down much more damage more quickly in order to end the fight before your opponent has a chance to take you down.

You won't be able to spam SB's against any half decent opponent. PvP, group or no, is about tactics, control and interrupts. Out damaging only works when they have pitifully low health, and even our PvP rogues have over 4k health.

I've already calculated SB spam damage, and for every component. Its not that much more damage.

On a small scale, its one shadowbolt. One crit? One battle? Pfft. Not enough.

Warlocks do much more with talent investment up to shadowburn than with ruin. Both dark pact and Soul link give a lot better staying power than Ruin.

Ruin builds depend on inconsistent crits in pvp. Full talent spec Searing Pain, the crits become more consistent, but ruin alone isn't enough. Dark pact and Soul link investment are still far superior to ruin.
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