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I quoted and commented on your whole section of text (in the first post). You then posted saying you had not mentioned license to use, so I quoted more specifically and now you say I should not have done that???????[right][snapback]78934[/snapback][/right]

Quoting and commenting on an entire section of text does not in any way imply that the commenter has understood the section of text in question. I note that you completely ignored the explanation of why you misread the meaning, which sort of means to me that you're just looking for someone to argue with and are unable to say, "Oh... sorry, misunderstood."

Nice.

You purchases a copy of the software, there is no need for any license at all to use it

In the sense that there's no freakin' point buying software you CAN'T use, that's accurate in a logical and sensible sense -- but it has nothing to do with law.

(although a whole lot of software makers want you to believe so, but please feel free to find in the copyright law were there is a requirement for it or any place that makes it not possible to use software without a license or permision from the copyright holder. That is all I have pointed out.

Unnecessary. You don't have the right to do anything with any copyrighted material except those things which are explicitly granted to you by the copyright holder. Certain rights are implied, obviously, but while you're sitting here asking me to tell you where in copyright law you are "required" to be given a license to use material, you're missing one very important point.

The only place in copyright law (US copyright law, anyway) where the consumer's "right" to "use" any copyright material whatsoever is addressed at all is in the "Fair Use" clause... which, of course, doesn't even specifically refer to the rights of someone who's purchased a copy of a copyrighted work anyway! "Fair Use" covers you even if you haven't purchased the material, and has very specific limitations.

There is not one single statement in US copyright law which describes what rights you, as the consumer, have when you purchase copyrighted material; there is not one single statement in US copyright law which restricts how the copyright holder may distribute their work.

If I have bought or otherwise got hold of the software (in most countries in a legal way) I can use it at will without needing a license at all since there is nothing that forbids me to do it to start with!

Yeah, legally, there is. The copyright holder controls the work, and controls the means of distribution, and additionally has the right to determine the means of use of their work.

(For example, a software company can sell you a license to use their software, such license being revocable if you use that software to do... well, pretty much anything they don't want you to do with it. If you were to violate that agreement, the software company would not come and demand that you turn over the installation CDs, ya know. They'd get a court order forcing you to cease... doing what with the software? It's a three-letter word...)

Now, on a practical level, as I've already previously acknowledged, if you go buy a piece of software it's implied that you're going to use it. But the copyright holder most certainly can impose restrictions on your use of that software, and that is why they can most certainly require you to agree to license terms.