05-19-2005, 06:23 PM
Chesspiece_face,May 19 2005, 04:46 PM Wrote:Ok first of all I don't see how my statement has anything to do with your level of knowledge [... t]he amount of time I could take just going completely off on your generalizations and assumptions on the above quote are endless and to be blunt it really pisses me off to have my words so blatantly twisted.
The reason it came across like that to me is because you directly contradicted something I had to say and then said (paraphrasing), "and I've got all this experience". This reads to me as though you're simply dismissing what someone else has to say because you consider your experience to elevate your own opinions and assumptions to a higher level of validity than those of someone else. I did not intend to twist your words, and your own post is there for everyone else to read and make their own judgement about.
Quote:Well since you've already gone and brought intellegence quotients into this
I did no such thing. My point (made when angry, so doubtless not very clearly) was that I disliked people writing off the opinions of others on the grounds of their own experience. You have no idea of my own experiences in the field, and they should not be of any importance in a logical discussion. You can use them to support your own assumptions (which you did), but you cannot use them as evidence against someone else's possibly equally likely assumptions (which you also did, or at least I read as you doing - my apologies if this was not what you intended).
Quote:What credentials do you have to make such a statement?
I've been on both sides of the software writing and software testing teams for coming up to eight years, during which time I've seen both sides done both very well, and very poorly.
Quote:I've given my experiences and why i feel it is reasonable for the developers to make the decisions they have. How are you basing your assessment of Blizzard's testing prowess? Because you play the game and you saw a bug? Have you played any other MMO's? Have you beta tested any other MMO's?
Playing the game and seeing a bug allows me to make some judgement of Blizzard's testing prowess, yes. There are typographical errors littered throughout the 'gossip' sections of many of the NPCs. That's not a difficult bug to spot, and spelling mistakes (I saw "abailable" on an NPC last week) should NEVER get through thanks to the miracles of spelling checkers.
I've played Ultima Online, but not beta-tested anything aside from WoW. Let me know when that information is relevant.
Quote:If they take the shackles off by making it a PvP server they will get exponentially more PvP interactions than if it were a PvE server.
I do not think you mean "exponentially". I would also draw your attention to the fact that the US appear to have two test servers, one PvE and one PvP. What's all that about, then?
Quote:They will also not have a PvP server full of people that want to do PvE stuff. I get back to my original argument; Why should Blizzard make a second PvE test server when all the information they need can be gathered from one server?
Why should they make a second PvP server when they could make it a PvE server like they did with the US test realms, and thus keep both their sets of free testers happy?
Judging by the enormous queues outside the battlegrounds, they don't have a server full of people that want to do PvE stuff.
You don't know what you're talking about.