Defensive Stance
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mjdoom,May 10 2005, 04:24 PM Wrote:I give roughly a 0% chance of me trying to change your mind here :P
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My 11/29/11 mirrors this setup, save I use full Anger Management and TM. This thread is making me reevaluate my own use of TM, and you all do have a point - my thrown daggers work better than charge pulls in instances that are actually difficult.

Still, what I'm wondering is where those points would be better spent. All I can think of is -

-Finishing off Toughness (nice passive, not overwhelming)
-Getting Shield Discipline (is this worth it? I thought it was passive when I first saw it, so that says something about my opinion of it)
-Get Cheap Sunder (probably more of a Rage saver than TM will ever be in parties)
-Get Anticipation (can be had from gear, but I've heard that despite that fact, it may be worth it.)


Anyway, I'm curious about what comes out of this. Cheap Sunder, Toughness, and Shield Discipline would be personal choices if I ever ditched TM and AM. My problem is that I love Anger Management's undocumented 'feature': In battle, you get 1 rage every 3 seconds.

The reason for this, near as I can tell, is because of the way rage decays: normally, out of battle, you lose 3 rage every 3 or so seconds. With Anger Management, 1 rage of this loss is countered, and you only lose 2 rage every 3 seconds. However, in battle, you don't lose rage, but Anger Management is still active, and you gain 1 rage every 3 seconds.

This may not seem like a lot, but to a 1 hand + Shield warrior desperate for rage can certainly notice this while trying to keep up rage spamming Shield Block and Revenge. This also combines nicely with Bloodrage's placing you in battle for 10 seconds while its rage gain tics - if you use it out of battle, you get 23 total rage.

All in all, Anger Management is even stronger than it appears on the surface. I forget who pointed this out to me, but I can really feel the difference since I sprung for it.

This, ultimately, is a rage boost I'd miss ;].
Men fear death, as children fear to go in the dark; and as that natural fear in children, is increased with tales, so is the other.

"Of Death" Sir Francis Bacon
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Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 01-24-2005, 08:02 PM
Defensive Stance - by Treesh - 01-24-2005, 08:10 PM
Defensive Stance - by Tal - 01-24-2005, 08:54 PM
Defensive Stance - by Concillian - 01-24-2005, 10:05 PM
Defensive Stance - by Kevin - 01-24-2005, 10:14 PM
Defensive Stance - by stabby - 01-25-2005, 02:21 AM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 01-25-2005, 04:50 AM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 01-25-2005, 04:17 PM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 01-25-2005, 04:20 PM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 01-25-2005, 04:27 PM
Defensive Stance - by Zarathustra - 01-25-2005, 04:33 PM
Defensive Stance - by Tal - 01-25-2005, 04:48 PM
Defensive Stance - by Tal - 01-25-2005, 04:50 PM
Defensive Stance - by Zarathustra - 01-25-2005, 05:24 PM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 01-25-2005, 06:47 PM
Defensive Stance - by Kevin - 01-25-2005, 07:43 PM
Defensive Stance - by Roland - 01-26-2005, 04:05 AM
Defensive Stance - by Olon97 - 01-26-2005, 07:21 AM
Defensive Stance - by Olon97 - 01-26-2005, 07:27 AM
Defensive Stance - by Olon97 - 01-26-2005, 07:38 AM
Defensive Stance - by Tal - 01-26-2005, 03:18 PM
Defensive Stance - by Concillian - 01-26-2005, 08:58 PM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 01-28-2005, 04:33 PM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 01-28-2005, 04:49 PM
Defensive Stance - by Roland - 01-28-2005, 08:41 PM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 01-28-2005, 10:05 PM
Defensive Stance - by Treesh - 01-28-2005, 10:17 PM
Defensive Stance - by Kevin - 01-28-2005, 11:16 PM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 01-30-2005, 11:10 AM
Defensive Stance - by Treesh - 01-30-2005, 03:32 PM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 01-30-2005, 11:03 PM
Defensive Stance - by Treesh - 01-30-2005, 11:38 PM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 01-31-2005, 04:31 AM
Defensive Stance - by Mavfin - 02-01-2005, 03:19 PM
Defensive Stance - by Raziel - 02-01-2005, 04:42 PM
Defensive Stance - by Concillian - 02-01-2005, 10:58 PM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 02-02-2005, 04:25 AM
Defensive Stance - by Concillian - 02-02-2005, 08:33 PM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 03-14-2005, 10:38 PM
Defensive Stance - by Boutros - 03-14-2005, 10:58 PM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 03-14-2005, 11:09 PM
Defensive Stance - by Boutros - 03-14-2005, 11:21 PM
Defensive Stance - by Treesh - 03-14-2005, 11:43 PM
Defensive Stance - by Boutros - 03-15-2005, 02:25 AM
Defensive Stance - by Chaerophon - 03-16-2005, 12:15 PM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 03-16-2005, 06:20 PM
Defensive Stance - by Mavfin - 03-16-2005, 08:28 PM
Defensive Stance - by playingtokrush - 03-17-2005, 08:18 AM
Defensive Stance - by Mavfin - 03-17-2005, 02:35 PM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 03-17-2005, 10:18 PM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 03-17-2005, 10:25 PM
Defensive Stance - by mjdoom - 03-17-2005, 10:39 PM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 03-17-2005, 10:48 PM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 04-02-2005, 09:59 PM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 04-03-2005, 06:17 AM
Defensive Stance - by Mak - 04-03-2005, 10:54 PM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 04-04-2005, 09:28 AM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 04-04-2005, 03:26 PM
Defensive Stance - by Mak - 04-04-2005, 06:30 PM
Defensive Stance - by Treesh - 04-04-2005, 08:25 PM
Defensive Stance - by Kevin - 05-10-2005, 04:02 PM
Defensive Stance - by Darian - 05-10-2005, 05:11 PM
Defensive Stance - by Kevin - 05-10-2005, 05:39 PM
Defensive Stance - by Bob the Beholder - 05-10-2005, 06:17 PM
Defensive Stance - by mjdoom - 05-10-2005, 06:20 PM
Defensive Stance - by Darian - 05-10-2005, 06:24 PM
Defensive Stance - by Darian - 05-10-2005, 06:32 PM
Defensive Stance - by Drasca - 05-10-2005, 07:04 PM
Defensive Stance - by Kevin - 05-10-2005, 07:18 PM
Defensive Stance - by Treesh - 05-10-2005, 07:24 PM
Defensive Stance - by Darian - 05-10-2005, 07:35 PM
Defensive Stance - by Kevin - 05-10-2005, 07:48 PM
Defensive Stance - by swirly - 05-10-2005, 07:52 PM
Defensive Stance - by Darian - 05-10-2005, 08:07 PM
Defensive Stance - by Kevin - 05-10-2005, 08:10 PM
Defensive Stance - by mjdoom - 05-10-2005, 08:19 PM
Defensive Stance - by mjdoom - 05-10-2005, 08:24 PM
Defensive Stance - by mjdoom - 05-10-2005, 08:54 PM
Defensive Stance - by Kevin - 05-10-2005, 09:45 PM
Defensive Stance - by Thawwing Light - 05-11-2005, 01:19 AM
Defensive Stance - by Thawwing Light - 05-11-2005, 01:37 AM
Defensive Stance - by mjdoom - 05-11-2005, 02:09 AM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 05-11-2005, 03:53 AM
Defensive Stance - by Kevin - 05-11-2005, 04:47 AM
Defensive Stance - by Bob the Beholder - 05-11-2005, 06:31 AM
Defensive Stance - by towelrod - 05-11-2005, 03:26 PM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 05-11-2005, 07:51 PM
Defensive Stance - by Olon97 - 05-11-2005, 10:17 PM
Defensive Stance - by Ynir - 05-12-2005, 04:20 PM
Defensive Stance - by Artega - 05-13-2005, 02:47 AM
Defensive Stance - by swirly - 05-27-2005, 11:52 PM

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